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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.ma>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 19:16:59 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <825871008.10839.1530573419561.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzZYOatOtjrm7fD7878_SzCAmEoEu74n0+pgd7faH-sTQ@mail.gmail.com>

----- On Jul 2, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Linus Torvalds torvalds@linux-foundation.org wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:00 PM Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, that rseq->rseq_cs field needs to be updated by user-space
>> with single-copy atomicity. Therefore, we want 32-bit user-space to initialize
>> the padding with 0, and only update the low bits with single-copy atomicity.
> 
> Well... It's actually still single-copy atomicity as a 64-bit value.
> 
> Why? Because it doesn't matter how you write the upper bits. You'll be
> writing the same value to them (zero) anyway.
> 
> So who cares if the write ends up being two instructions, because the
> write to the upper bits doesn't actually *do* anything.
> 
> Hmm?

Are there any kind of guarantees that a __u64 update on a 32-bit architecture
won't be torn into something daft like byte-per-byte stores when performed
from C code ?

I don't worry whether the upper bits get updated or how, but I really care
about not having store tearing of the low bits update.

Thanks,

Mathieu


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-02 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-02 22:31 [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 22:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:00   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:06     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:16       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2018-07-02 23:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:25           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:37           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03  1:19             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  2:01               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  2:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03  2:30                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  2:33                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03  2:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03  8:14                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  8:29                       ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03  8:43                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  8:55                           ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03  9:17                             ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03  9:24                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  9:21                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 16:40                               ` Andi Kleen
2018-07-03 17:02                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:06                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 17:10                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 17:26                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:34                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:38                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:58                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:11                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:15                                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:28                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:41                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 19:08                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:59                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 18:09                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:10                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03  0:19         ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03  0:23           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03  0:35             ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03  1:17               ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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