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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	carlos <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at nptl init and thread creation
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 19:01:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871s7bsmf1.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181123174438.GL23599@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (Rich Felker's message of "Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:44:38 -0500")

* Rich Felker:

> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 06:39:04PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Rich Felker:
>> 
>> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:05:20PM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> >> There has been presumptions about signals being blocked when the thread
>> >> exits throughout this email thread. Out of curiosity, what code is
>> >> responsible for disabling signals in this situation ? Related to this,
>> >> is it valid to access a IE model TLS variable from a signal handler at
>> >> _any_ point where the signal handler nests over thread's execution ?
>> >> This includes early start and just before invoking the exit system call.
>> >
>> > It should be valid to access *any* TLS object like this, but the
>> > standards don't cover it well.
>> 
>> C++ makes it undefined:
>> 
>>   <http://eel.is/c++draft/support.signal#def:evaluation,signal-safe>
>
> C also leaves access to pretty much anything from a signal handler
> undefined, but that makes signals basically useless.

Access to atomic variables of thread storage duration is defined,
though.

Thanks,
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-23 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-21 18:39 [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at nptl init and thread creation Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-21 18:39 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/5] glibc: sched_getcpu(): use rseq cpu_id TLS on Linux Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 14:36 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at nptl init and thread creation Rich Felker
2018-11-22 15:04   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 15:11     ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 15:17       ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 15:21         ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 15:33           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 15:44             ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 16:24             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-22 18:35               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 19:01                 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 19:36                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 15:14     ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 15:47       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 16:28         ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 16:47           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 16:59             ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 17:10               ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 13:10                 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 14:28                   ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 17:05                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-23 17:30                       ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 17:39                         ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 17:44                           ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 18:01                             ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2018-11-23 17:52                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-23 18:35                           ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 21:09                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26  8:28                               ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-26 15:51                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 16:03                                   ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-26 17:10                                     ` Rich Felker
2018-11-26 19:22                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-12-03 21:30                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 16:30                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 17:07                                     ` Rich Felker
2018-12-05 17:24                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 11:56                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-22 17:29               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-23 13:29                 ` Florian Weimer

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