From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 3/4] random: introduce generic vDSO getrandom() implementation
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:00:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735a0tm20.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9oGffi539nEAJkOjC-2yAR+0Ra+wQw5oG6Y6+CRr5e62g@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 30 2022 at 16:47, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:29 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>> I see what you mean now. However this means your vdso32 copies
>> are different between 32-bit and 64-bit kernels. If you need to
>> access one of the fields from assembler, it even ends up
>> different at source level, which adds a bit of complexity.
>>
>> Making the interface configuration-independent makes it obvious
>> to the reader that none of these problems can happen.
>
> Except ideally, these are word-sized accesses (where only compat code
> has to suffer I suppose).
While I hate it with a passion, there is actually a valid reason to use
this ugly typedef.
On 32bit architectures which have load/store tearing of 64bit variables
into two 32bit accesses due to ISA limitations, that results in
undefined behaviour when write and read are concurrent. Neither
READ_ONCE() nor WRITE_ONCE help there.
Though that begs the question whether we need a 64bit generation counter
for the VDSO at all.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-30 17:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-29 21:06 [PATCH v10 0/4] implement getrandom() in vDSO Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 21:06 ` [PATCH v10 1/4] random: add vgetrandom_alloc() syscall Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 22:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30 0:59 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 1:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30 1:42 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 22:39 ` David Laight
2022-12-01 0:14 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 10:51 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-30 15:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 16:38 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-02 14:38 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-01 2:16 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-02 17:17 ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-02 18:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 21:06 ` [PATCH v10 2/4] arch: allocate vgetrandom_alloc() syscall number Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 8:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-30 10:06 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 10:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-29 21:06 ` [PATCH v10 3/4] random: introduce generic vDSO getrandom() implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 22:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30 1:09 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 10:44 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-30 14:51 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 14:59 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 15:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-30 15:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 15:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-30 15:47 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 16:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-30 16:40 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 17:00 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2022-11-29 21:06 ` [PATCH v10 4/4] x86: vdso: Wire up getrandom() vDSO implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-29 22:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-30 1:11 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-30 5:22 ` Eric Biggers
2022-11-30 10:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
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