From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Andrey Vagin <avagin@virtuozzo.com>,
Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Alexey
Subject: Setting monotonic time?
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 11:15:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877ej2xc23.fsf_-_@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1809282023350.1432@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (Thomas Gleixner's message of "Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:32:15 +0200 (CEST)")
In the context of process migration there is a simpler subproblem that I
think it is worth exploring if we can do something about.
For a cluster of machines all running with synchronized
clocks. CLOCK_REALTIME matches. CLOCK_MONOTNIC does not match between
machines. Not having a matching CLOCK_MONOTONIC prevents successful
process migration between nodes in that cluster.
Would it be possible to allow setting CLOCK_MONOTONIC at the very
beginning of time? So that all of the nodes in a cluster can be in
sync?
No change in skew just in offset for CLOCK_MONOTONIC.
There are also dragons involved in coordinating things so that
CLOCK_MONOTONIC gets set before CLOCK_MONOTONIC gets used. So I don't
know if allowing CLOCK_MONOTONIC to be set would be practical but it
seems work exploring all on it's own.
Dmitry would setting CLOCK_MONOTONIC exactly once at boot time solve
your problem that is you are looking at a time namespace to solve?
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-01 9:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-19 20:50 [RFC 00/20] ns: Introduce Time Namespace Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 01/20] " Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-28 18:20 ` Laurent Vivier
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 02/20] timens: Add timens_offsets Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-20 18:45 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-09-20 22:14 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 03/20] timens: Introduce CLOCK_MONOTONIC offsets Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 04/20] timens: Introduce CLOCK_BOOTTIME offset Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-30 3:18 ` [LKP] [timens] 3cc8de9dcb: RIP:posix_get_boottime kernel test robot
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 05/20] timerfd/timens: Take into account ns clock offsets Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 06/20] kernel: Take into account timens clock offsets in clock_nanosleep Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 07/20] timens: Shift /proc/uptime Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 08/20] x86/vdso: Restrict splitting vvar vma Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 09/20] x86/vdso/timens: Add offsets page in vvar Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 10/20] x86/vdso: Use set_normalized_timespec() to avoid 32 bit overflow Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 11/20] x86/vdso: Purge timens page on setns()/unshare()/clone() Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 12/20] x86/vdso: Look for vvar vma to purge timens page Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 13/20] posix-timers/timens: Take into account clock offsets Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-30 3:11 ` [LKP] [posix] 25217c6e39: BUG:KASAN:null-ptr-deref_in_c kernel test robot
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 14/20] timens: Add align for timens_offsets Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 15/20] timens: Optimize zero-offsets Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 16/20] selftest: Add Time Namespace test for supported clocks Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-24 21:36 ` Shuah Khan
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 17/20] selftest/timens: Add test for timerfd Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 18/20] selftest/timens: Add test for clock_nanosleep Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 19/20] timens/selftest: Add procfs selftest Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-19 20:50 ` [RFC 20/20] timens/selftest: Add timer offsets test Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-21 12:27 ` [RFC 00/20] ns: Introduce Time Namespace Eric W. Biederman
2018-09-24 20:51 ` Andrey Vagin
2018-09-24 22:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-09-25 1:42 ` Andrey Vagin
2018-09-26 17:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-09-26 17:59 ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-09-27 21:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-27 21:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-01 23:20 ` Andrey Vagin
2018-10-02 6:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-02 21:05 ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-10-02 21:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-28 17:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-09-28 19:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-01 9:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-01 9:15 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2018-10-01 18:52 ` Setting monotonic time? Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-02 20:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-10-02 20:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-03 4:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-03 5:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-03 6:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-03 7:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-10-03 6:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-01 20:51 ` Andrey Vagin
2018-10-02 6:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-21 1:41 ` [RFC 00/20] ns: Introduce Time Namespace Andrei Vagin
2018-10-21 3:54 ` Andrei Vagin
2018-10-29 20:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-29 21:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-29 21:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-31 16:26 ` Andrei Vagin
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