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From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
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	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/2] exec: If possible don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 13:53:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877f32k5ew.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170402153517.GA12637-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> (Oleg Nesterov's message of "Sun, 2 Apr 2017 17:35:17 +0200")

Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:

> On 04/01, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>
>> --- a/fs/exec.c
>> +++ b/fs/exec.c
>> @@ -1052,6 +1052,7 @@ static int de_thread(struct task_struct *tsk)
>>  	struct signal_struct *sig = tsk->signal;
>>  	struct sighand_struct *oldsighand = tsk->sighand;
>>  	spinlock_t *lock = &oldsighand->siglock;
>> +	bool may_hang;
>>
>>  	if (thread_group_empty(tsk))
>>  		goto no_thread_group;
>> @@ -1069,9 +1070,10 @@ static int de_thread(struct task_struct *tsk)
>>  		return -EAGAIN;
>>  	}
>>
>> +	may_hang = atomic_read(&oldsighand->count) != 1;
>>  	sig->group_exit_task = tsk;
>> -	sig->notify_count = zap_other_threads(tsk);
>> -	if (!thread_group_leader(tsk))
>> +	sig->notify_count = zap_other_threads(tsk, may_hang ? 1 : -1);
>
> Eric, this is amazing. So with this patch exec does different things depening
> on whether sighand is shared with another CLONE_SIGHAND task or not. To me
> this doesn't look sane in any case.

It is a 99% solution that makes it possible to talk about and review
letting the exec continue after the subthreads are killed but not
reaped.

Sigh I should have made may_hang say:

may_hang = (atomic_read(&oldsignand->count) != 1) && (sig->nr_threads > 1)

Which covers all know ways userspace actually uses these clone flags.

> And btw zap_other_threads(may_hang == 0) is racy. Either you need tasklist or
> exit_notify() should set tsk->exit_state under siglock, otherwise zap() can
> return the wrong count.

zap_other_thread(tsk, 0) only gets called in the case where we don't
care about the return value.  It does not get called from fs/exec.c

> Finally. This patch creates the nice security hole. Let me modify my test-case
> again:
>
> 	void *thread(void *arg)
> 	{
> 		ptrace(PTRACE_TRACEME, 0,0,0);
> 		return NULL;
> 	}
>
> 	int main(void)
> 	{
> 		int pid = fork();
>
> 		if (!pid) {
> 			pthread_t pt;
> 			pthread_create(&pt, NULL, thread, NULL);
> 			pthread_join(pt, NULL);
> 			execlp(path-to-setuid-binary, args);
> 		}
>
> 		sleep(1);
>
> 		// Now we can send the signals to setiuid app
> 		kill(pid+1, ANYSIGNAL);
>
> 		return 0;
> 	}

That is a substantive objection, and something that definitely needs
to get fixed.   Can you think of anything else?

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-02 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20170213141452.GA30203@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <20170224160354.GA845@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <87shmv6ufl.fsf@xmission.com>
     [not found]     ` <20170303173326.GA17899@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <20170303173326.GA17899-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 18:23         ` [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-03 18:59           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87d1dyw5iw.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 20:06               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <87tw7aunuh.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 20:11                   ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-04 17:03                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-30  8:07                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <8760ir192p.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-01  5:11                           ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] exec: Fixing ptrace'd mulit-threaded hang Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <878tnkpv8h.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-01  5:14                               ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] sighand: Count each thread group once in sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-01  5:16                               ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] exec: If possible don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <87vaqooggs.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 15:35                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                     ` <20170402153517.GA12637-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 18:53                                       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
     [not found]                                         ` <877f32k5ew.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 18:12                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-03 21:04                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:44                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 15:38                               ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] exec: Fixing ptrace'd mulit-threaded hang Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:50                               ` [RFC][PATCH v2 0/5] " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <874ly6a0h1.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 22:51                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/5] ptrace: Don't wait in PTRACE_O_TRACEEXIT for exec or coredump Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:19                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:51                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/5] sighand: Count each thread group once in sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-02 22:52                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 3/5] clone: Disallown CLONE_THREAD with a shared sighand_struct Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <87k2728lrp.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 16:24                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 17:34                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:11                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:53                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 4/5] exec: If possible don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:15                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 22:57                                   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 5/5] signal: Don't allow accessing signal_struct by old threads after exec Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <87zify76z9.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 16:18                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                         ` <20170405161812.GD14536-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-05 18:16                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                             ` <87zifu90to.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-06 15:48                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-02 16:15                           ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                             ` <20170402161518.GC12637-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 21:07                               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <87inmmbjsq.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 18:37                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                     ` <20170403183728.GB31390-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-03 22:49                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-03 22:49                                       ` scope of cred_guard_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 16:08                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-04-05 16:11                                           ` Kees Cook
2017-04-05 17:53                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-05 18:15                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                         ` <87fuhpjeco.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-06 15:55                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                             ` <20170406155540.GC7444-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-07 22:07                                               ` Kees Cook
2017-09-04  3:19                                   ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Don't wait for ptraced threads to be reaped Robert O'Callahan
     [not found]           ` <87tw7axlr0.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-04 16:54             ` [PATCH 0/2] fix the traced mt-exec deadlock Oleg Nesterov

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