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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@linuxdriverproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/3] Drivers: hv: kvp: convert userspace/kernel communication to using char device
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 10:53:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pp8qif00.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150227202715.GF2034@potion.brq.redhat.com> ("Radim \=\?utf-8\?B\?S3LEjW3DocWZIidz\?\= message of "Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:27:15 +0100")

Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com> writes:

> 2015-02-27 17:14+0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov:
>> Re-implement the communication using misc char device. Use ioctl to do
>> kernel/userspace version negotiation (doesn't make much sense at this moment
>> as we're breaking backwards compatibility but can be used in future).
>
> The main question is whether we want to abolish backward compatibility;
> kernel rules are usually against breakages and it's hard to prove that
> the bundled daemon is a sole user and gets updated at the same time.
> (Note: I'd gladly break anything.)
>
> The ioctl is used too creatively for my liking: as an out-of-band
> communication that is required after the main channel has been opened.
> It would be simpler to inject the version into first x bytes of the
> stream, making a read() after open() mandatory.

We need to perform a handshake - kernel part sends its version and
receives daemon's version. We can definitelly pack everything in the
data stream but why do we need to avoid ioctls? It seems to me the
handshake we're performing here belongs to a 'control' stream, not
'data' stream.

>
> (I've only done a high level overview so far.)

Thanks!

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  Vitaly
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-27 16:14 [PATCH RFC 0/3] Drivers: hv: utils: re-implement the kernel/userspace communication layer Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-02-27 16:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] Drivers: hv: kvp: convert userspace/kernel communication to using char device Vitaly Kuznetsov
     [not found]   ` <1425053665-635-2-git-send-email-vkuznets-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 20:27     ` Radim Krčmář
2015-03-03  9:53       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
     [not found]         ` <87pp8qif00.fsf-hpI3/L/TUU23oHxwIazZmlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-03 19:47           ` Radim Krčmář
2015-02-27 16:14 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] Drivers: hv: vss: " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-02-27 16:14 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] Drivers: hv: fcopy: make it consistent with vss/kvp Vitaly Kuznetsov
     [not found] ` <1425053665-635-1-git-send-email-vkuznets-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 21:07   ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] Drivers: hv: utils: re-implement the kernel/userspace communication layer Radim Krčmář
     [not found]     ` <20150227210744.GA11904-KfRq7+sF/6zkZJWtSm8s3NvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-02 13:33       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2015-03-02  2:11 ` KY Srinivasan
2015-03-02 13:37   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov

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