From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Hildenbrand Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: add MAP_EXCLUSIVE to create exclusive user mappings Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 09:19:33 +0100 Message-ID: <9eae3941-64cf-4ea1-0287-0e64bab192c6@redhat.com> References: <1572171452-7958-1-git-send-email-rppt@kernel.org> <1572171452-7958-2-git-send-email-rppt@kernel.org> <085ed07e-e646-f7a4-0370-06f33a2a4e4a@redhat.com> <20191030081529.GB20624@rapoport-lnx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20191030081529.GB20624@rapoport-lnx> Content-Language: en-US Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Mike Rapoport Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexey Dobriyan , Andrew Morton , Andy Lutomirski , Arnd Bergmann , Borislav Petkov , Dave Hansen , James Bottomley , Peter Zijlstra , Steven Rostedt , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org, Mike Rapoport List-Id: linux-api@vger.kernel.org On 30.10.19 09:15, Mike Rapoport wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:02:34PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> On 27.10.19 11:17, Mike Rapoport wrote: >>> From: Mike Rapoport >>> >>> The mappings created with MAP_EXCLUSIVE are visible only in the context= of >>> the owning process and can be used by applications to store secret >>> information that will not be visible not only to other processes but to= the >>> kernel as well. >>> >>> The pages in these mappings are removed from the kernel direct map and >>> marked with PG_user_exclusive flag. When the exclusive area is unmapped= , >>> the pages are mapped back into the direct map. >>> >> >> Just a thought, the kernel is still able to indirectly read the contents= of >> these pages by doing a kdump from kexec environment, right? >=20 > Right. >=20 >> Also, I wonder >> what would happen if you map such pages via /dev/mem into another user s= pace >> application and e.g., use them along with kvm [1]. >=20 > Do you mean that one application creates MAP_EXCLUSIVE and another > applications accesses the same physical pages via /dev/mem? Exactly. >=20 > With /dev/mem all physical memory is visible... Okay, so the statement "information that will not be visible not only to=20 other processes but to the kernel as well" is not correct. There are=20 easy ways to access that information if you really want to (might=20 require root permissions, though). --=20 Thanks, David / dhildenb