From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 10:59:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: <858886246.10882.1530583291379.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> <20180703082955.GH3704@osiris> <20180703084312.GU2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180703085546.GJ3704@osiris> <20180703092113.GV2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180703164048.i2te5gjemcafqzwf@two.firstfloor.org> <20180703173451.GX2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <399697782.11820.1530639539750.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> <20180703174833.GZ2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20180703174833.GZ2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers , Andi Kleen , Heiko Carstens , Andy Lutomirski , Thomas Gleixner , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux API , Paul McKenney , Boqun Feng , Dave Watson , Paul Turner , Andrew Morton , Russell King - ARM Linux , Ingo Molnar , Peter Anvin , Christoph Lameter , Ben Maurer , Steven Rostedt , Josh Triplett , Catalin Marinas List-Id: linux-api@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:49 AM Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > I can simply document that loads/stores from/to all struct rseq fields > > should be thread-local then ? > > I'm not sure that covers things sufficiently. You really want the > userspace load/stores to be single instructions. Actually, I think we should try very hard to limit even that to _just_ the rseq pointer itself. Everything else can be filled in ahead of time with non-atomic stores, and then the last thing that happens - and the only thing that wants that final "one last atomic write" is the rseq pointer write. No? So I'd suggest that the only part we aim to have any "atomic" behavior at all is for the individual fields in "struct rseq" itself. So the cpu id and the base pointer and the flags. And even they are thread-local, so the atomicity is not about the kernel, but about user space needing to read and update them in word-sized chunks. End result: absolutely nothing is atomic for the kernel. Linus