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From: John Heffner <johnwheffner-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Eric B Munson <emunson-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tom Herbert <tom-BjP2VixgY4xUbtYUoyoikg@public.gmane.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev <netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] tcp: provide SYN headers for passive connections
Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 23:07:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABrhC0mmH8LzD1GQo1ORWErdRM4-ZFhco+FZYvYoKHrUDckOFQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1430752330.3711.180.camel-XN9IlZ5yJG9HTL0Zs8A6p/gx64E7kk8eUsxypvmhUTTZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-05-04 at 10:41 -0400, John Heffner wrote:
>
>> Nice idea, seems handy.  But a couple (somewhat related) questions:
>>
>> * Other than convenience, are there reasons not use an existing, more
>> general-purpose and portable mechanism like pcap?  (Permissions, I
>> guess?)
>
> Very hard to synchronize when say you have 32 listeners sharing a single
> port (SO_REUSEPORT), and receive one million SYN per second (when my TCP
> listener scaling work is finished).
>
> libpcap here would be a serious bottleneck, even with a clever FANIN
> support on the af_packet sockets, considering use of multiqueue NIC.
>
>> * Are there conditions where, for security purposes, you don't want an
>> application to have access to the raw SYNs?
>
> Not that we are aware of : We restrict the access to IP + TCP headers,
> for the passive part. All information that is available there was
> provided by the remote peer on a 'open way' anyway.

Makes sense, thanks.

  -John

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-05  3:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-01 17:43 [PATCH] Allow TCP connections to cache SYN packet for userspace inspection Eric B Munson
     [not found] ` <1430502237-5619-1-git-send-email-emunson-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 18:42   ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]     ` <1430505777.3711.135.camel-XN9IlZ5yJG9HTL0Zs8A6p/gx64E7kk8eUsxypvmhUTTZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 19:55       ` Tom Herbert
     [not found]         ` <CALx6S34ftz_wDoPwcJg_cMQu4QtnBJF-=d+gF5ieTA=d=r31-Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 20:14           ` Eric B Munson
     [not found]             ` <20150501201417.GB6113-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 20:23               ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                 ` <1430511800.3711.138.camel-XN9IlZ5yJG9HTL0Zs8A6p/gx64E7kk8eUsxypvmhUTTZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 20:29                   ` Eric B Munson
     [not found]                     ` <20150501202908.GC6113-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 20:41                       ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                         ` <1430512894.3711.140.camel-XN9IlZ5yJG9HTL0Zs8A6p/gx64E7kk8eUsxypvmhUTTZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04  4:34                           ` [PATCH net-next] tcp: provide SYN headers for passive connections Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                             ` <1430714086.3711.165.camel-XN9IlZ5yJG9HTL0Zs8A6p/gx64E7kk8eUsxypvmhUTTZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04  6:47                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                                 ` <CAKgNAkiUOkjsE96E1DN_zwJAjJGLWME7-XGnFDszic7p7C=g7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 13:53                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-05-04 14:02                               ` Neal Cardwell
2015-05-04 14:21                               ` Eric B Munson
     [not found]                                 ` <20150504142155.GD6113-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 14:31                                   ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                                     ` <1430749912.3711.173.camel-XN9IlZ5yJG9HTL0Zs8A6p/gx64E7kk8eUsxypvmhUTTZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 14:36                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-05-04 14:41                               ` John Heffner
     [not found]                                 ` <CABrhC0nmsfAyHgJX8zEBDBVfFN=2qXKy7cO0Kbp9R9UCeEYowg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 14:58                                   ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-04 15:12                                   ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                                     ` <1430752330.3711.180.camel-XN9IlZ5yJG9HTL0Zs8A6p/gx64E7kk8eUsxypvmhUTTZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05  3:07                                       ` John Heffner [this message]
2015-05-05 20:05                             ` David Miller
     [not found]                               ` <20150505.160535.1034497188259706110.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 21:02                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-05-01 19:27   ` [PATCH] Allow TCP connections to cache SYN packet for userspace inspection Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CALCETrWi6h3DRu6Z8jJ_-MiWqRRyKZHntpJFNON=GpAjMDYXmQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-01 20:01       ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-01 20:28         ` Andy Lutomirski

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