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From: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos-v2tUB8YBRSi3e3T8WW9gsA@public.gmane.org>
To: David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [patch] Fix handling of overlength pathname in AF_UNIX sun_path
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:48:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADZpyizwozRjYOvOads0KkqRr2quTo532TC=Ff=cw0sGc3OCQg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120418.133102.1711079292327461659.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:31 PM, David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> From: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos-v2tUB8YBRSi3e3T8WW9gsA@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:57:58 -0400
>
>> In summary your opinion is that the API has and always will allow up
>> to 108 chars to be used in sun_path?
>
> Yes.
>
>> In which case I will talk to the Austin group to get a good example
>> added to POSIX showing safe usage.
>
> Why would you add language to POSIX for Linux specific behavior?
> Just curious :-)

Why not? Do you ever feel crazy when people question what you think is
perfectly reasonable? ;-)

POSIX doesn't exist in a vacuum, we need to harmonize reality with the
standard. If an implementation exists where sun_path has no
null-terminator then it is useful to have POSIX clarify that
null-termination is implementation defined behaviour, just like it
says that sun_path's length undefined. Under "Application Usage" or
"Examples" it's valid to talk about specific implementations.

See: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007904975/basedefs/sys/un.h.html,
where it talks about BSD in the "Application Usage." It's about time
we some "Linux this" and "Linux that" in there.

Cheers,
Carlos.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-18 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-17 10:44 [patch] Fix handling of overlength pathname in AF_UNIX sun_path Michael Kerrisk
     [not found] ` <4F8D497F.8060601-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 10:51   ` Willy Tarreau
     [not found]     ` <20120417105107.GA8614-K+wRfnb2/UA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-17 15:43       ` Carlos O'Donell
2012-04-18 19:44     ` Alan Cox
2012-04-18  2:36 ` David Miller
     [not found]   ` <20120417.223614.629911246108750471.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18  4:08     ` Carlos O'Donell
     [not found]       ` <CADZpyix6DZ93f8MQf3Aa1NVV7HCFMAXVAdzRMFBY7xWHHQMPog-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18  4:16         ` David Miller
     [not found]           ` <20120418.001650.1042781402985153056.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18 12:57             ` Carlos O'Donell
     [not found]               ` <CADZpyixnQMM5WFWLyvEQ=D-tvrqFGe4PC5WdUzxVtdL96NODJQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18 17:31                 ` David Miller
     [not found]                   ` <20120418.133102.1711079292327461659.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18 18:48                     ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2012-04-18 19:23                       ` David Miller
2012-04-18 22:50             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]               ` <CAKgNAkh46EMDWpessyi0n-EyNoRid-iW1O1RfUpTtzKDv0mZFw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-18 23:31                 ` David Miller
2012-04-19 10:19                 ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                   ` <20120419111909.616bef70-38n7/U1jhRXW96NNrWNlrekiAK3p4hvP@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 10:33                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                       ` <CAKgNAkjZ31JAs0XFutnAozCAcHHAq6pcCAKeDNHccKQ+6uTP6g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 12:11                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-04-18  8:17         ` David Laight
2012-04-18 13:13           ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo

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