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From: Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@google.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: "David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
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	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Ard Biesheuvel" <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"Nicolas Pitre" <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
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	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Sergey Senozhatsky" <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	"Helge Deller" <deller@gmx.de>, "Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Pavel Tikhomirov" <ptikhomirov@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] arm64/syscalls: Specific usage of verify_pre_usermode_state
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:19:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJcbSZFbcGrAEoV8KpYKH-6PgpFDQ-cBt_P7MqX2_hShAPjvvg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170309160551.GC11966@leverpostej>

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 07:56:49AM -0800, Thomas Garnier wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:23 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>> > We generally stick to lower case for the arm64 assembly macros. If we
>> > need this, we should stick to the existing convention.
>> >
>> >> +/* Similar to set_fs(USER_DS) in verify_pre_usermode_state without a warning. */
>> >> +.macro VERIFY_PRE_USERMODE_STATE
>> >> +     mov     x1, #TASK_SIZE_64
>> >> +     str     x1, [tsk, #TSK_TI_ADDR_LIMIT]
>> >> +.endm
>> >
>> > We need arm64's set_fs() to configure UAO, too, so this is much weaker
>> > than set_fs(), and will leave __{get,put}_user and
>> > __copy_{to,from}_user() able to access kernel memory.
>> >
>> > We don't currently have an asm helper to clear UAO, and unconditionally
>> > poking that on exception return is liable to be somewhat expensive.
>> >
>> > Also, given we're only trying to catch this in syscalls, I'm afraid I
>> > don't see what we gain by doing this in the entry assembly.
>>
>> I optimized all architectures from the arm (32-bit) discussion. I will
>> come back to a simple bl to the verify function. Thanks!
>
> What I was trying to ask was do we need to touch the assembly at all
> here?

You don't but he generic solution add code to every single syscall.

> Are we trying to protect the non-syscall cases by doing this in
> assembly? If so, it'd be worth calling out in the commit message.

It is an added benefit but not required.

> If so, we could add the necessary helper to clear UAO.

I can look at set_fs and fix it on the next iteraiton.

> If not, doing this in the entry assembly only saves the small overhead
> of reading and comparing the addr_limit for in-kernel use of the
> syscalls (e.g. in the compat wrappers), and we may as well rely on the
> common !ARCH_NO_SYSCALL_VERIFY_PRE_USERMODE_STATE implementation.

You also don't have the code added for each syscall and a call.

>
> Thanks,
> Mark.



-- 
Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-09 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-09  1:24 [PATCH v2 1/4] syscalls: Restore address limit after a syscall Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09  1:24 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] x86/syscalls: Specific usage of verify_pre_usermode_state Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09  1:24 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arm/syscalls: " Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09  1:24 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] arm64/syscalls: " Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09 12:23   ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-09 15:56     ` Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09 16:05       ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-09 16:19         ` Thomas Garnier [this message]
2017-03-09 16:26       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-09 16:35         ` Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09 17:05           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-09  8:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] syscalls: Restore address limit after a syscall Borislav Petkov
2017-03-09 15:48   ` Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09 17:27   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-09 17:41     ` Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09 10:39 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-09 12:09 ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-09 13:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-09 15:21     ` Mark Rutland
2017-03-09 15:54       ` Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09 15:52   ` Thomas Garnier
2017-03-09 12:32 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-03-09 15:53   ` Thomas Garnier

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