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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Aaron Jones <aaronmdjones@gmail.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Markku Savela <msa@moth.iki.fi>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] capabilities: Ambient capabilities
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:53:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrV7S0dLkNWMSYsL7MFuLgdpQwUEAjW6zTwRE8uhh_AuBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150424190935.GN16377@ubuntumail>

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Quoting Andy Lutomirski (luto@amacapital.net):
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> > Quoting Christoph Lameter (cl@linux.com):
>> >> On Thu, 9 Apr 2015, Christoph Lameter wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > I'll submit a new version this week with the securebits.  Sorry for the delay.
>> >>  > Are we going to get a new version?
>> >>
>> >> Replying to my own here. Cant we simply use the SETPCAP approach as per
>> >> the patch I posted?
>> >
>> > Andy had objections to that, but it seems ok to me.
>> >
>>
>> I object because CAP_SETPCAP is very powerful whereas
>> CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE, for example, isn't.  I'm fine with having a
>> switch to turn off ambient caps, but requiring the "on" state to give
>
> Would only really be needed for the initial 'enable ambient caps for this
> process tree', though.  Once that was set, add/remove'ing caps from the
> ambient set wouldn't need to be required.

That's sort of what my patch does -- you need CAP_SETPCAP to switch
the securebit.

But Christoph's patch required it to add caps to the ambient set, right?

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-24 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-12 18:08 [RFC] capabilities: Ambient capabilities Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-12 21:49 ` Kees Cook
2015-03-12 22:10   ` Andrew G. Morgan
     [not found]     ` <CALQRfL7b8CjYgUnVy3jykNwv48fOc03T385RKo--cfv25YenBg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-12 22:27       ` Andrew Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CAObL_7HgU-ekb7mJS7C=0=idfrzV6=CSqTrG2LvUgdDtvbJx_w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 13:24           ` Andrew G. Morgan
2015-03-13 16:06             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]               ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1503131049150.13899-gkYfJU5Cukgdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 17:58                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrXcUfbqfm7av9crrxQ5nCBYpdJO8gRo4ZhRA97g27B2iw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 18:52                     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-03-13 17:57             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]               ` <CALCETrVz39pJmMAEFodBNA8cOZjd0xkH95EzMazY0MWJDtpYgg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 18:52                 ` Kees Cook
2015-03-13 19:03                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrV7vDJVhM_AgtGn8ENStcyxZBwCw3zhSn-whArT_XPg8A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-13 19:54                       ` Kees Cook
2015-03-14 21:09                 ` Andrew G. Morgan
2015-03-14 21:45                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrUGASa3Gp6cC1zdAahcS59DOdyLnTtgNX7t7FucMZLmoQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 22:17                       ` Andrew G. Morgan
     [not found]                         ` <CALQRfL6z2dEtPkWiuGydT0a+y4iWm2qw-cY0Rk9hA-K4gPw_qA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-14 22:53                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-14 22:55                           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                             ` <CALCETrWRHRVLotFs=Cpdr=7KjE7q52NdT62GxZg=xjv+LFZBqw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-15  0:04                               ` Andrew G. Morgan
2015-03-30 12:55                                 ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1503300754070.5031-gkYfJU5Cukgdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-30 14:31                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                       ` <CALCETrW9ckw=7-1JSyFkenhFu2_1MvVqjA+inOmsuuWemGaU0w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-30 15:05                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-09 15:25                                         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                           ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1504091024540.13650-gkYfJU5Cukgdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-23 14:01                                             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                               ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1504230900260.32203-gkYfJU5Cukgdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 17:53                                                 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-04-24 18:41                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                     ` <CALCETrW5_85mFFTkzCVNA5N1KQeNBrkw2d8FF3H3LYtmz6UAPw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 19:09                                                       ` Serge Hallyn
2015-04-24 19:25                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 19:53                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2015-04-24 20:13                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                             ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1504241512570.11839-gkYfJU5Cukgdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 20:18                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-24 21:15                                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20150424211511.GB28613-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 22:55                                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                                       ` <CALCETrUdNp18ZeOC8pRYn_YPUp8nFyH7aS+dFoBf34XNmER-nA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-25  2:45                                                                         ` Serge Hallyn
2015-04-27 14:55                                                                 ` Christoph Lameter

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