From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Marian Marinov <mm-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
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Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Pondering per-process vsyscall disablement
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 13:35:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrVLeUaPRxYu=1-eFVgYDDppAG1DbkQvCKpaUO8NpRWifA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5388E814.1080504-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:20 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On 05/30/2014 01:11 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:05 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> On 05/30/2014 01:00 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do the flags go in the ELF loader or in the executable we're running?
>>>> Or both (and, if both, do we and them or or them)?
>>>>
>>>> I think the interpreter makes a little more sense in general: for the
>>>> most part, use of vsyscalls is a property of the runtime environment,
>>>> not of the program being run. But maybe this is naive.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They go into each object which becomes part of the running program, i.e.
>>> executable, dynamic libraries, and dynamic linker.
>>
>> Well, sure, but the kernel is not about to start reading ELF headers
>> in dynamic libraries. So we need to make a decision based on the
>> interpreter and the executable. The conservative approach is to
>> require both to have the flag set *and* to offer a prctl to twiddle
>> the flags. Then userspace loaders can do whatever they want, and
>> distros get to rebuild the world :)
>>
>
> Yes, something like that.
I'll hack something up once the merge window closes. Or maybe sooner
if you commit my vsyscall patches from a few days ago. Otherwise I'm
just going to confuse my git tree too much :)
--Andy
>
> -hpa
>
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Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-22 23:04 Pondering per-process vsyscall disablement Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-23 2:44 ` Marian Marinov
[not found] ` <537EB60E.40204-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-23 16:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWgtQCRiHt+am8+DoOMVvTuxy05AB6zzg3iAheGs13L6A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-28 21:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <538658EE.8030809-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 20:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-30 20:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <5388E499.6080101-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 20:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrX9s7xJRddB26ZiyjMEGbupbDj2qDHhio=80XSQ+staDA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 20:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <5388E814.1080504-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 20:35 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
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