From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov"
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Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCHv2 29/29] mm, x86: introduce RLIMIT_VADDR
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 13:27:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrW7yxmgrR15yvxkXOF1pHy5vicwDv6Oj019ecEyBCrWBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <978d5f1a-ec4d-f747-93fd-27ecfe10cb88-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On 01/05/2017 12:14 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this. Do other rlimit changes cause
>>> silent data corruption? I'm pretty sure doing this to MPX would.
>>>
>> What actually goes wrong in this case? That is, what combination of
>> MPX setup of subsequent allocations will cause a problem, and is the
>> problem worse than just a segfault? IMO it would be really nice to
>> keep the messy case confined to MPX.
>
> The MPX bounds tables are indexed by virtual address. They need to grow
> if the virtual address space grows. There's an MSR that controls
> whether we use the 48-bit or 57-bit layout. It basically decides
> whether we need a 2GB (48-bit) or 1TB (57-bit) bounds directory.
>
> The question is what we do with legacy MPX applications. We obviously
> can't let them just allocate a 2GB table and then go let the hardware
> pretend it's 1TB in size. We also can't hand the hardware using a 2GB
> table an address >48-bits.
>
> Ideally, I'd like to make sure that legacy MPX can't be enabled if this
> RLIMIT is set over 48-bits (really 47). I'd also like to make sure that
> legacy MPX is active, that the RLIMIT can't be raised because all hell
> will break loose when the new addresses show up.
>
> Remember, we already have (legacy MPX) binaries in the wild that have no
> knowledge of this stuff. So, we can implicitly have the kernel bump
> this rlimit around, but we can't expect userspace to do it, ever.
If you s/rlimit/prctl, then I think this all makes sense with one
exception. It would be a bit sad if the personality-setting tool
didn't work if compiled with MPX.
So what if we had a second prctl field that is the value that kicks in
after execve()?
--Andy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-05 21:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20161227015413.187403-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [RFC, PATCHv2 29/29] mm, x86: introduce RLIMIT_VADDR Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 2:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-27 2:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 3:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-02 9:09 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-29 2:53 ` Carlos O'Donell
2016-12-31 2:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-02 8:35 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-13 20:11 ` H.J. Lu
2017-01-02 8:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 6:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-03 13:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 18:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-03 22:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 22:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-04 13:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 16:04 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-03 18:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-04 14:19 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 17:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-05 19:13 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 19:29 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 19:39 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 20:11 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 20:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-05 20:49 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <978d5f1a-ec4d-f747-93fd-27ecfe10cb88-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-05 21:27 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2017-01-05 23:17 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-11 14:29 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 18:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11 18:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 18:49 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-11 19:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-11 21:46 ` Andi Kleen
2017-01-11 19:32 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <20170111142904.GD4895-sVvlyX1904swdBt8bTSxpkEMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-11 18:26 ` Dave Hansen
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