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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov"
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Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCHv2 29/29] mm, x86: introduce RLIMIT_VADDR
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 13:27:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrW7yxmgrR15yvxkXOF1pHy5vicwDv6Oj019ecEyBCrWBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <978d5f1a-ec4d-f747-93fd-27ecfe10cb88-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On 01/05/2017 12:14 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this.  Do other rlimit changes cause
>>> silent data corruption?  I'm pretty sure doing this to MPX would.
>>>
>> What actually goes wrong in this case?  That is, what combination of
>> MPX setup of subsequent allocations will cause a problem, and is the
>> problem worse than just a segfault?  IMO it would be really nice to
>> keep the messy case confined to MPX.
>
> The MPX bounds tables are indexed by virtual address.  They need to grow
> if the virtual address space grows.   There's an MSR that controls
> whether we use the 48-bit or 57-bit layout.  It basically decides
> whether we need a 2GB (48-bit) or 1TB (57-bit) bounds directory.
>
> The question is what we do with legacy MPX applications.  We obviously
> can't let them just allocate a 2GB table and then go let the hardware
> pretend it's 1TB in size.  We also can't hand the hardware using a 2GB
> table an address >48-bits.
>
> Ideally, I'd like to make sure that legacy MPX can't be enabled if this
> RLIMIT is set over 48-bits (really 47).  I'd also like to make sure that
> legacy MPX is active, that the RLIMIT can't be raised because all hell
> will break loose when the new addresses show up.
>
> Remember, we already have (legacy MPX) binaries in the wild that have no
> knowledge of this stuff.  So, we can implicitly have the kernel bump
> this rlimit around, but we can't expect userspace to do it, ever.

If you s/rlimit/prctl, then I think this all makes sense with one
exception.  It would be a bit sad if the personality-setting tool
didn't work if compiled with MPX.

So what if we had a second prctl field that is the value that kicks in
after execve()?

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-05 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20161227015413.187403-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2016-12-27  1:54 ` [RFC, PATCHv2 29/29] mm, x86: introduce RLIMIT_VADDR Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  2:06   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-27  2:24     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  3:22       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-02  9:09         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-29  2:53       ` Carlos O'Donell
2016-12-31  2:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-02  8:35           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-13 20:11             ` H.J. Lu
2017-01-02  8:44   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03  6:08     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-03 13:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 18:29         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-03 22:07           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 22:09             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-04 13:55               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 16:04       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-03 18:27         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-04 14:19           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 17:53             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-05 19:13   ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 19:29     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 19:39       ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 20:11         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 20:14         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-05 20:49           ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]             ` <978d5f1a-ec4d-f747-93fd-27ecfe10cb88-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-05 21:27               ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2017-01-05 23:17                 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-11 14:29             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 18:09               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11 18:37                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 18:49                   ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-11 19:20                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11 19:31                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-11 21:46                         ` Andi Kleen
2017-01-11 19:32                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 19:39                         ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]               ` <20170111142904.GD4895-sVvlyX1904swdBt8bTSxpkEMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-11 18:26                 ` Dave Hansen

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