From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Tycho Andersen
<tycho.andersen-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Will Drewry <wad-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Roland McGrath <roland-/Z5OmTQCD9xF6kxbq+BtvQ@public.gmane.org>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] seccomp: add ptrace options for suspend/resume
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:42:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrWYc2ZqGWzrNQMHdwQ-_sAy8AhkMdJWABEpwMP2qbSO8A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150610172931.GD4069@ubuntumail>
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Quoting Andy Lutomirski (luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org):
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > On 06/09, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Tycho Andersen
>> >> >
>> >> > @@ -556,6 +556,15 @@ static int ptrace_setoptions(struct task_struct *child, unsigned long data)
>> >> > if (data & ~(unsigned long)PTRACE_O_MASK)
>> >> > return -EINVAL;
>> >> >
>> >> > + if (unlikely(data & PTRACE_O_SUSPEND_SECCOMP)) {
>> >
>> > Well, we should do this if
>> >
>> > (data & O_SUSPEND) && !(flags & O_SUSPEND)
>> >
>> > or at least if
>> >
>> > (data ^ flags) & O_SUSPEND
>> >
>> >
>> >> > + if (!config_enabled(CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE) ||
>> >> > + !config_enabled(CONFIG_SECCOMP))
>> >> > + return -EINVAL;
>> >> > +
>> >> > + if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
>> >> > + return -EPERM;
>> >>
>> >> I tend to think that we should also require that current not be using
>> >> seccomp. Otherwise, in principle, there's a seccomp bypass for
>> >> privileged-but-seccomped programs.
>> >
>> > Andy, I simply can't understand why do we need any security check at all.
>> >
>> > OK, yes, in theory we can have a seccomped CAP_SYS_ADMIN process, seccomp
>> > doesn't filter ptrace, you hack that process and force it to attach to
>> > another CAP_SYS_ADMIN/seccomped process, etc, etc... Looks too paranoid
>> > to me.
>>
>> I've sometimes considered having privileged processes I write fork and
>> seccomp their child. Of course, if you're allowing ptrace through
>> your seccomp filter, you open a giant can of worms, but I think we
>> should take the more paranoid approach to start and relax it later as
>
> I really do intend to look at your old proposed tree for improving that...
> have only done a once-over so far, though.
Don't read it yet. It's unnecessarily complicated due to the mess
that is x86's entry code, and I want to clean up the entry code first.
--Andy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-10 17:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-10 0:49 [PATCH v4] seccomp: add ptrace options for suspend/resume Tycho Andersen
[not found] ` <1433897388-9567-1-git-send-email-tycho.andersen-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10 1:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrVuNzZRAw40reo_2ne9saO5KbbG-omFUQXDo=+XFhpuWA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10 15:19 ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-10 16:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20150610163149.GA5092-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10 17:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrX_GXgjPRXXT4jMZtjR6vMQrmYbk_OwrAoxaJWFT0+0Fw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10 17:29 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-06-10 17:42 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2015-06-10 19:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-10 20:18 ` Kees Cook
[not found] ` <CAGXu5jJovcC1S4OANpqbVe6e86xr4W9Y7897MsSDOpvEqezpnA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10 20:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-12 23:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrUSjKVWoMM8aVeevAZRHqtiE7zOSUvjdW_yCBTnR07Ahg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-12 23:29 ` Kees Cook
[not found] ` <CAGXu5jKD8nj-E87em6BqS_TAeca4-kqL2u7jqYFompzqPrvqfA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-13 15:06 ` Tycho Andersen
2015-06-10 20:33 ` Kees Cook
[not found] ` <CAGXu5jKuf6PoBDDkr21ZHOMnWpRAZ-G=NA7rVMx_1qiHZ-8DzA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-10 20:57 ` Tycho Andersen
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