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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] vfs: Define new syscall getumask.
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:56:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrX20sVXEQruJXy=uet4e-vnc3NeWYHe3Cm6TOqn772-Bg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1736004700.56566.1460581285951.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Apr 13, 2016 2:01 PM, "Mathieu Desnoyers"
<mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> ----- On Apr 13, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
> > ----- On Apr 13, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >
> >> v1 -> v2:
> >>
> >> - Use current_umask() instead of current->fs->umask.
> >>
> >> - Retested it.
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> It's not possible to read the process umask without also modifying it,
> >> which is what umask(2) does.  A library cannot read umask safely,
> >> especially if the main program might be multithreaded.
> >>
> >> This patch series adds a trivial system call "getumask" which returns
> >> the umask of the current process.
> >
> > In addition to this system call, we could extend a variation of my
> > thread_local_abi system call (https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/4/4/455)
> > (could be without features flags, or an entirely new system call
> > specifically for a umask cache) to register a "current umask" cache
> > located in a TLS area.
> >
> > Basically, reading the current umask value would be a simple load from
> > a TLS variable.
>
> I'm actually discussing 3 separate things here: the umask, sigmask, and
> cpu affinity mask.
>
> Not sure if caching the umask in a TLS would be that useful, though.
> The caching idea seems to make more sense for signal mask and cpu
> affinity mask.
>

I think this is of questionable value.

Keep in mind that every feature like this adds overhead to lots of
code paths as well as additional complexity.  Such features should be
justified by big performance benefits.

Given that processes can easily track their own umasks and signal
masks if they care, I don't see why the kernel would want to help.

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-14 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-13 12:57 [PATCH v2 0/2] vfs: Define new syscall getumask Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Richard W.M. Jones
     [not found]   ` <1460552272-15985-2-git-send-email-rjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 13:20     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2016-04-13 13:57       ` Richard W.M. Jones
     [not found]         ` <20160413135708.GG11600-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 14:02           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-13 15:27           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found] ` <1460552272-15985-1-git-send-email-rjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 12:57   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86: Wire up new getumask system call on x86 Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-13 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] vfs: Define new syscall getumask Greg KH
2016-04-14  3:47     ` Steven Rostedt
2016-04-14 19:26       ` Greg KH
2016-04-13 15:39   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <2143735451.55767.1460561962122.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 21:01       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]         ` <1736004700.56566.1460581285951.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14  2:13           ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]             ` <20160414021348.GB16656-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18  0:38               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                 ` <57142C80.6070005-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18  1:09                   ` Greg KH
     [not found]                     ` <20160418010925.GA7800-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18  2:02                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18  2:12                       ` Josh Triplett
2016-04-18  2:15                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18  2:37                           ` Josh Triplett
2016-04-18  3:00                             ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                               ` <57144DE6.9050409-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 11:39                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-14 17:56           ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2016-04-13 15:41   ` Colin Walters
     [not found]     ` <1460562105.353100.577697153.013DF466-2RFepEojUI2N1INw9kWLP6GC3tUn3ZHUQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 16:03       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-18  1:42       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]         ` <57143B74.3070302-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18  1:57           ` Josh Triplett
2016-04-18  9:14             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-18 10:04               ` H. Peter Anvin

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