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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
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	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.ma>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v9 for 4.15 01/14] Restartable sequences system call
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:24:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXccCp8apoyUJV8kWLOavnFnenZoU-fbb6cOVZvWp-fnA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <66195899.40613.1507904878681.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 7:27 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers
<mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> ----- On Oct 13, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Florian Weimer fweimer@redhat.com wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2017 03:40 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>> The proposed ABI does not require to store any function pointer. For a given
>>> rseq_finish() critical section, pointers to specific instructions (within a
>>> function) are emitted at link-time into a struct rseq_cs:
>>>
>>> struct rseq_cs {
>>>          RSEQ_FIELD_u32_u64(start_ip);
>>>          RSEQ_FIELD_u32_u64(post_commit_ip);
>>>          RSEQ_FIELD_u32_u64(abort_ip);
>>>          uint32_t flags;
>>> } __attribute__((aligned(4 * sizeof(uint64_t))));
>>>
>>> Then, at runtime, the fast-path stores the address of that struct rseq_cs
>>> into the TLS struct rseq "rseq_cs" field.
>>>
>>> So all we store at runtime is a pointer to data, not a pointer to functions.
>>>
>>> But you seem to hint that having a pointer to data containing pointers to code
>>> may still be making it easier for exploit writers. Can you elaborate on the
>>> scenario ?
>>
>> I'm concerned that the exploit writer writes a totally made up struct
>> rseq_cs object into writable memory, along with function pointers, and
>> puts the address of that in to the rseq_cs field.
>>
>> This would be comparable to how C++ vtable pointers are targeted
>> (including those in the glibc libio implementation of stdio streams).
>>
>> Does this answer your questions?
>
> Yes, it does. How about we add a "canary" field to the TLS struct rseq, e.g.:
>
> struct rseq {
>         union rseq_cpu_event u;
>         RSEQ_FIELD_u32_u64(rseq_cs);  -> pointer to struct rseq_cs
>         uint32_t flags;
>         uint32_t canary;   -> 32 low bits of rseq_cs ^ canary_mask
> };
>
> We could then add a "uint32_t canary_mask" argument to sys_rseq, e.g.:
>
> SYSCALL_DEFINE3(rseq, struct rseq __user *, rseq, uint32_t, canary_mask, int, flags);
>
> So a thread which does not care about hardening would simply register its
> struct rseq TLS with a canary mask of "0". Nothing changes on the fast-path.
>
> A thread belonging to a process that cares about hardening could use a random
> value as canary, and pass it as canary_mask argument to the syscall. The
> fast-path could then set the struct rseq "canary" value to
> (32-low-bits of rseq_cs) ^ canary_mask just surrounding the critical section,
> and set it back to 0 afterward.
>
> In the kernel, whenever the rseq_cs pointer would be loaded, its 32 low bits
> would be checked to match (canary ^ canary_mask). If it differs, then the
> kernel kills the process with SIGSEGV.
>
> Would that take care of your concern ?
>

I would propose a slightly different solution: have the kernel verify
that it jumps to a code sequence that occurs just after some
highly-unlikely magic bytes in the text *and* that those bytes have
some signature that matches a signature in the struct rseq that's
passed in.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-13 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20171012230326.19984-1-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH v9 for 4.15 01/14] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13  0:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-13  9:35     ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]       ` <DM5PR15MB1690DA99E4AA74FBE54CF7F9CF480-kTBAvIqET4EjX1lkf7hTyId3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-13 18:30         ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]           ` <CA+55aFzPBES0JOYuZhuNM7NKN+G9ytZQT2daueFPw0j9HGpdGQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-13 20:54             ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]               ` <20171013205418.GM3521-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-13 21:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                   ` <CA+55aFwvNS95ByZJTh1yG25QfaD0K0ZByK3iXeeRU8LafFiGFQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-13 21:21                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-10-13 21:36                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-16 16:04                       ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-10-16 16:46                         ` Andi Kleen
2017-10-16 22:17                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                             ` <21865534.42661.1508192263844.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 16:19                               ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]                                 ` <CY4PR15MB168879D6220D976B04FE482CCF4C0-ZVJ2su15u+xeX4ZvlgGe+Yd3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 16:33                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                     ` <1292309161.43101.1508258000235.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 16:41                                       ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]                                         ` <CY4PR15MB16886FD43FB48592F3F5892FCF4C0-ZVJ2su15u+xeX4ZvlgGe+Yd3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 17:48                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-18  6:22                                   ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                     ` <20171018062226.GB18857-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-18 16:28                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-14  3:01           ` Andi Kleen
2017-10-14  4:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-14 11:37               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 12:50   ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-13 13:40     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 13:56       ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-13 14:27         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 17:24           ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrXccCp8apoyUJV8kWLOavnFnenZoU-fbb6cOVZvWp-fnA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-13 17:53               ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                 ` <3358e696-43e9-15d3-9634-68e9da79e121-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-13 18:17                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrVWZxC=mT9p7HTrAwcAdMzaxwa=A-O0uQt79qy1Cpky_g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-14 11:53                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-18 16:41   ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]     ` <CY4PR15MB1688286D6B1283A1C234BAE6CF4E0-ZVJ2su15u+xeX4ZvlgGe+Yd3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-18 18:11       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]         ` <515879378.43966.1508350299712.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 11:35           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-19 17:01             ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-23 17:30           ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]             ` <CY4PR15MB16888F91F41A4A1D322C102CCF460-ZVJ2su15u+xeX4ZvlgGe+Yd3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-23 20:44               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 02/14] tracing: instrument restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 03/14] Restartable sequences: ARM 32 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 04/14] Restartable sequences: wire up ARM 32 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 05/14] Restartable sequences: x86 32/64 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 06/14] Restartable sequences: wire up x86 32/64 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 09/14] Provide cpu_opv " Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171012230326.19984-10-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-13 13:57     ` Alan Cox
2017-10-13 14:50       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]         ` <854849583.40647.1507906233368.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-14 14:22           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-13 17:20     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-14  2:50     ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]       ` <20171014025029.GL2482-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-14 13:35         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 10/14] cpu_opv: Wire up x86 32/64 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 12/14] cpu_opv: Wire up ARM32 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 13/14] cpu_opv: Implement selftests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-12 23:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 14/14] Restartable sequences: Provide self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-10-16  2:51   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-16 14:23     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]       ` <399058130.42156.1508163782335.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 10:38         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-17 13:50           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <871sm3n6sy.fsf-W0DJWXSxmBNbyGPkN3NxC2scP1bn1w/D@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-16 18:50       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]         ` <1998166049.42520.1508179805908.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 10:36           ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]             ` <87d15mjc1g.fsf-W0DJWXSxmBNbyGPkN3NxC2scP1bn1w/D@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 13:50               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                 ` <1618170495.42951.1508248216596.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-18  5:45                   ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]   ` <20171012230326.19984-15-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-16  3:00     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-16  3:48       ` Boqun Feng
2017-10-16 11:48         ` Michael Ellerman

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