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From: Kenton Varda <kenton-AuYgBwuPrUQTaNkGU808tA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman
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	Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
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	Linux FS Devel
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	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [CFT][PATCH 00/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts (take 2)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 21:54:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOP=4whDGZjigrrdh3NaynW1tHXHYD69tsH_gqgG2NhpiSf1zQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fv6g80g7.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Eric W. Biederman
<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Implicits for only the locked mount flags is a little different but
> still ick.

FWIW, I only ever meant to advocate for this for locked flags, i.e.
cases where the only other option is to throw EPERM. Clearly when the
user has permission, the exact requested flags should be applied, or
all kinds of things break.

It seems to me that if we can fix the security issue without breaking
userspace, we should. Sometimes we end up with icky APIs to avoid
breaking userspace. (Though IMO implicitly preserving locked bits is
not icky at all.)

-Kenton

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-29  4:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-14 17:30 [CFT][PATCH 0/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:33 ` [CFT][PATCH 04/10] fs: Add helper functions for permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:33 ` [CFT][PATCH 05/10] sysctl: Allow creating " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <87pp63jcca.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 17:31   ` [CFT][PATCH 01/10] mnt: Refactor the logic for mounting sysfs and proc in a user namespace Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:32   ` [CFT][PATCH 02/10] mnt: Modify fs_fully_visible to deal with mount attributes Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:32   ` [CFT][PATCH 03/10] vfs: Ignore unlocked mounts in fs_fully_visible Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:34   ` [CFT][PATCH 06/10] proc: Allow creating permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:34   ` [CFT][PATCH 07/10] kernfs: Add support for always " Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:35   ` [CFT][PATCH 08/10] sysfs: Add support for permanently " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87fv6zhxkp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 20:31       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]         ` <20150514203131.GB16416-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 21:33           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 17:36   ` [CFT][PATCH 09/10] sysfs: Create mountpoints with sysfs_create_empty_dir Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <878ucrhxi9.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-11 18:44       ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-11 18:57         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-11 19:21           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrXE=fKa3XkEEo6y2=ZNtsuBfX=kaoyDwiP0C2BwqKJWjw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12  0:58               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <87mvxxcogp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 20:00                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-12 20:27                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                       ` <87r3n82qxd.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 21:05                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <877fp1hcuj.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-11 20:11             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <CAOS58YOHU8SFv4UXeBRr4t88UU=DXQCPg2HU_dMBmgM7WBB1zQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12  0:37                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                   ` <87fv3pe3zn.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12  3:58                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                       ` <87a8txb1k8.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12  4:04                         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                           ` <871tf9b19v.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 19:15                             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                               ` <20150812191515.GA4496-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 20:07                                 ` [PATCH] fs: Set the size of empty dirs to 0 Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                   ` <87mvxw46fc.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 20:18                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-14 17:37   ` [CFT][PATCH 10/10] mnt: Update fs_fully_visible to test for permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-14 20:29 ` [CFT][PATCH 0/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-14 21:10   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87oalmg90j.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-15  6:26       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrU1yxcDfv4YV3wVpWMAdiOOsSUFOPUpFAN-mVA4M-OxdQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-15  6:55           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:05 ` [CFT][PATCH 00/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:06   ` [CFT][PATCH 02/10] mnt: Modify fs_fully_visible to deal with mount attributes Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]   ` <87siaxuvik.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-16  2:06     ` [CFT][PATCH 01/10] mnt: Refactor the logic for mounting sysfs and proc in a user namespace Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:07     ` [CFT][PATCH 03/10] vfs: Ignore unlocked mounts in fs_fully_visible Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:07     ` [CFT][PATCH 04/10] fs: Add helper functions for permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:08     ` [CFT][PATCH 05/10] sysctl: Allow creating permanently empty directories that serve as mountpoints Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:08     ` [CFT][PATCH 06/10] proc: Allow creating permanently empty directories that serve as mount points Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:09     ` [CFT][PATCH 07/10] kernfs: Add support for always empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-16  2:09     ` [CFT][PATCH 08/10] sysfs: Add support for permanently empty directories to serve as mount points Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-18 13:14       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-16  2:10     ` [CFT][PATCH 09/10] sysfs: Create mountpoints with sysfs_create_mount_point Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-18 13:14       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-16  2:11     ` [CFT][PATCH 10/10] mnt: Update fs_fully_visible to test for permanently empty directories Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-22 17:39     ` [CFT][PATCH 00/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <87wq004im1.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-22 18:59         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]           ` <CALCETrUhXBR5WQ6gXr9KzGc4=7tph7kzopY29Hug4g+FhOzEKg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-22 20:41             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 14:08           ` Serge Hallyn
2015-05-28 15:03             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 17:33               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrXXax28s9kMTQ-zDx0MttQWG4rg2y-oz3bSGiumSL=3sg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 18:20                   ` Kenton Varda
     [not found]                     ` <CAOP=4wid+N_80iyPpiVMN96_fuHZZRGtYQ6AOPn-HFBj2H6Vgg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 19:14                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <87fv6gikfn.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 20:12                           ` Kenton Varda
2015-05-28 20:47                             ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-28 21:07                               ` Kenton Varda
     [not found]                                 ` <CAOP=4wiAA4SqvMn_rQJHOjg6M-75bi_G9Fx8ENgVnYdkT5WVQA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:12                                   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-29  0:30                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-29  0:35                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                           ` <CALCETrXO21Y7PR=pKqaqJb1YZArNyjAv7Z-J44O53FcfLM_0Tw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29  4:36                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                               ` <87fv6g80g7.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29  4:54                                 ` Kenton Varda [this message]
2015-05-29 17:49                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-03 21:13                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <87k2vkebri.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 21:15                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 11/10] mnt: Avoid unnecessary regressions in fs_fully_visible Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <87eglseboh.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  4:35                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 11/10] mnt: Avoid unnecessary regressions in fs_fully_visible (take 2) Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                             ` <874mmodral.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  5:20                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-06-05  0:46                                           ` [CFT][PATCH 11/10] mnt: Avoid unnecessary regressions in fs_fully_visible Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                             ` <CALCETrWwtFaiaYGLoq4EPkrgcq9nEA2GseVfP3iBkbYZ8NfGPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-06 19:14                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-04  5:19                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 00/10] Making new mounts of proc and sysfs as safe as bind mounts (take 2) Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-06-04  6:27                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                           ` <87h9qo6la9.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  7:34                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-16 12:23                                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-28 21:04               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20150528210438.GA14849-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:42                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 21:52                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-05-28 19:36             ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]               ` <55676E32.3050006-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 19:57                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 20:30                   ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                     ` <55677AEF.1090809-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:32                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <87iobcfkwx.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:46                           ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                             ` <55678CCA.80807-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-16 12:30                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-29  9:30                           ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                             ` <556831CF.9040600-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29 17:41                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-06 18:56                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                               ` <87mw0c1x8p.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-16 12:31                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]                                   ` <20150616123148.GB18689-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-16 12:46                                     ` Richard Weinberger

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