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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] fanotify: allow setting FAN_CREATE in mount mark mask
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 15:33:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxjVdjLPbkkZd+_1csecDFuHxms3CcSLuAtRbKuozHUqWA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210330121204.b7uto3tesqf6m7hb@wittgenstein>

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 3:12 PM Christian Brauner
<christian.brauner@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 06:56:24PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > Add a high level hook fsnotify_path_create() which is called from
> > syscall context where mount context is available, so that FAN_CREATE
> > event can be added to a mount mark mask.
> >
> > This high level hook is called in addition to fsnotify_create(),
> > fsnotify_mkdir() and fsnotify_link() hooks in vfs helpers where the mount
> > context is not available.
> >
> > In the context where fsnotify_path_create() will be called, a dentry flag
> > flag is set on the new dentry the suppress the FS_CREATE event in the vfs
> > level hooks.
>
> Ok, just to make sure this scheme would also work for overlay-style
> filesystems like ecryptfs where you possible generate two notify events:
> - in the ecryptfs layer
> - in the lower fs layer
> at least when you set a regular inode watch.
>
> If you set a mount watch you ideally would generate two events in both
> layers too, right? But afaict that wouldn't work.
>
> Say, someone creates a new link in ecryptfs the DENTRY_PATH_CREATE
> flag will be set on the new ecryptfs dentry and so no notify event will
> be generated for the ecryptfs layer again. Then ecryptfs calls
> vfs_link() to create a new dentry in the lower layer. The new dentry in
> the lower layer won't have DCACHE_PATH_CREATE set. Ok, that makes sense.
>
> But since vfs_link() doesn't have access to the mnt context itself you
> can't generate a notify event for the mount associated with the lower
> fs. This would cause people who a FAN_MARK_MOUNT watch on that lower fs
> mount to not get notified about creation events going through the
> ecryptfs layer. Is that right?  Seems like this could be a problem.
>

Not sure I follow what the problem might be.

FAN_MARK_MOUNT subscribes to get only events that were
generated via that vfsmount - that has been that way forever.

A listener may subscribe to (say) FAN_CREATE on a certain
mount AND also also on a specific parent directory.

If the listener is watching the entire ecryptfs mount and the
specific lower directory where said vfs_link() happens, both
events will be reported. One from fsnotify_create_path() and
the lower from fsnotify_create().

If one listener is watching the ecryptfs mount and another
listener is watching the specific ecryptfs directory, both
listeners will get a single event each. They will both get
the event that is emitted from fsnotify_path_create().

Besides I am not sure about ecryptfs, but overlayfs uses
private mount clone for accessing lower layer, so by definition
users cannot watch the underlying overlayfs operations using
a mount mark. Also, overlayfs suppresses fsnotify events on
underlying files intentionally with FMODE_NONOTIFY.

Hope that answers your question.

Thanks,
Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-30 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-28 15:56 [RFC][PATCH] fanotify: allow setting FAN_CREATE in mount mark mask Amir Goldstein
2021-03-30  7:31 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30  9:31   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-30 16:24     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31 10:08       ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31 10:57         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-08 11:44         ` open_by_handle_at() in userns Amir Goldstein
2021-04-08 12:55           ` Christian Brauner
2021-04-08 14:15             ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-04-08 15:54               ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-08 16:08                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-04-08 16:48                   ` Frank Filz
2021-04-08 15:34             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-08 15:41               ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 12:12 ` [RFC][PATCH] fanotify: allow setting FAN_CREATE in mount mark mask Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 12:33   ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2021-03-30 12:53     ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 12:55       ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 13:54       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-30 14:17         ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 14:56           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31  9:46             ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31 11:29               ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31 12:17                 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31 12:59                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31 12:54                 ` Jan Kara
2021-03-31 14:06                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31 20:59                     ` fsnotify path hooks Amir Goldstein
2021-04-01 10:29                       ` Jan Kara
2021-04-01 14:18                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-02  8:20                           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-06  8:35                           ` Jan Kara
2021-03-31 13:06                 ` [RFC][PATCH] fanotify: allow setting FAN_CREATE in mount mark mask J. Bruce Fields
2021-03-30 12:20 ` Amir Goldstein

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