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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: "linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 07/12] dma-mapping: introduce dma_has_iommu()
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 12:05:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gXzC8OUgO_PciQ2phyq0YtmXjMGWvoPSVVuuZR7ohVCg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171009185840.GB15336@obsidianresearch.com>

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 03:35:54PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> otherwise be quiesced. The need for this knowledge is driven by a need
>> to make RDMA transfers to DAX mappings safe. If the DAX file's block map
>> changes we need to be to reliably stop accesses to blocks that have been
>> freed or re-assigned to a new file.
>
> If RDMA is driving this need, why not invalidate backing RDMA MRs
> instead of requiring a IOMMU to do it? RDMA MR are finer grained and
> do not suffer from the re-use problem David W. brought up with IOVAs..

Sounds promising. All I want in the end is to be sure that the kernel
is enabled to stop any in-flight RDMA at will without asking
userspace. Does this require per-RDMA driver opt-in or is there a
common call that can be made?

Outside of that the re-use problem is already solved by just unmapping
(iommu_unmap()) the IOVA, but keeping it allocated until the eventual
dma_unmap_sg() at memory un-registration time frees it.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-09 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-06 22:35 [PATCH v7 00/12] MAP_DIRECT for DAX RDMA and userspace flush Dan Williams
     [not found] ` <150732931273.22363.8436792888326501071.stgit-p8uTFz9XbKj2zm6wflaqv1nYeNYlB/vhral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-06 22:35   ` [PATCH v7 01/12] mm: introduce MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, a mechanism to safely define new mmap flags Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:35   ` [PATCH v7 02/12] fs, mm: pass fd to ->mmap_validate() Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:35   ` [PATCH v7 04/12] fs: MAP_DIRECT core Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:36   ` [PATCH v7 08/12] fs, mapdirect: introduce ->lease_direct() Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:36   ` [PATCH v7 10/12] device-dax: wire up ->lease_direct() Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 03/12] fs: introduce i_mapdcount Dan Williams
     [not found]   ` <150732933283.22363.570426117546397495.stgit-p8uTFz9XbKj2zm6wflaqv1nYeNYlB/vhral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09  3:08     ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 05/12] xfs: prepare xfs_break_layouts() for reuse with MAP_DIRECT Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 06/12] xfs: wire up MAP_DIRECT Dan Williams
2017-10-09  3:40   ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-09 17:08     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-09 22:50       ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-06 22:35 ` [PATCH v7 07/12] dma-mapping: introduce dma_has_iommu() Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:45   ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]     ` <1507329939.29211.434.camel-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-06 22:52       ` Dan Williams
     [not found]         ` <CAPcyv4jLj2WOgPA+B5eYME0uZyuoy3gp35w+4rCa_EZxm-QSKA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-06 23:10           ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]             ` <1507331434.29211.439.camel-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-06 23:15               ` Dan Williams
2017-10-07 11:08                 ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                   ` <1507374524.25529.13.camel-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-07 23:33                     ` Dan Williams
2017-10-06 23:12         ` Dan Williams
2017-10-08  3:45   ` [PATCH v8] dma-mapping: introduce dma_get_iommu_domain() Dan Williams
     [not found]     ` <150743420333.12880.6968831423519457797.stgit-p8uTFz9XbKj2zm6wflaqv1nYeNYlB/vhral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09 10:37       ` Robin Murphy
2017-10-09 17:32         ` Dan Williams
2017-10-10 14:40     ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]   ` <150732935473.22363.1853399637339625023.stgit-p8uTFz9XbKj2zm6wflaqv1nYeNYlB/vhral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09 18:58     ` [PATCH v7 07/12] dma-mapping: introduce dma_has_iommu() Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-09 19:05       ` Dan Williams [this message]
     [not found]         ` <CAPcyv4gXzC8OUgO_PciQ2phyq0YtmXjMGWvoPSVVuuZR7ohVCg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09 19:18           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20171009191820.GD15336-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09 19:28               ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                 ` <CAPcyv4h_uQGBAX6-bMkkZLO_YyQ6t4n_b8tH8wU_P0Jh23N5MQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 17:25                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20171010172516.GA29915-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 17:39                       ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                         ` <CAPcyv4jL5fN7jjXkQum8ERQ45eW63dCYp5Pm6aHY4OPudz4Wsw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 18:05                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-10 20:17                             ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 18:27                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-10-12 20:10                                 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-13  6:50                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                     ` <20171013065047.GA26461-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-13 15:03                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20171013150348.GA11257-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-15 15:14                                           ` Matan Barak
     [not found]                                             ` <CAAKD3BBR2CmQvg-3bqPog0VFrEm=QU-b-xBDH-_Q+sXV9NkFUA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-15 15:21                                               ` Dan Williams
2017-10-13  7:09               ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-06 22:36 ` [PATCH v7 09/12] xfs: wire up ->lease_direct() Dan Williams
     [not found]   ` <150732936625.22363.7638037715540836828.stgit-p8uTFz9XbKj2zm6wflaqv1nYeNYlB/vhral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09  3:45     ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-09 17:10       ` Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:36 ` [PATCH v7 11/12] IB/core: use MAP_DIRECT to fix / enable RDMA to DAX mappings Dan Williams
2017-10-08  4:02   ` [PATCH v8 1/2] iommu: up-level sg_num_pages() from amd-iommu Dan Williams
2017-10-08  4:04   ` [PATCH v8 2/2] IB/core: use MAP_DIRECT to fix / enable RDMA to DAX mappings Dan Williams
     [not found]     ` <150743537023.13602.3520782942682280917.stgit-p8uTFz9XbKj2zm6wflaqv1nYeNYlB/vhral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-08  6:45       ` kbuild test robot
     [not found]         ` <201710081447.sQSonloO%fengguang.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-08 15:49           ` Dan Williams
2017-10-06 22:36 ` [PATCH v7 12/12] tools/testing/nvdimm: enable rdma unit tests Dan Williams

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