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From: Volker Lendecke <Volker.Lendecke@SerNet.DE>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Milosz Tanski <milosz@adfin.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-aio@kvack.org" <linux-aio@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/7] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:17:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Xwo5O-00GRl4-Cc@intern.SerNet.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141204151102.2d7e11dca39f130c2dff2294@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 03:11:02PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> I can see all that, but it's handwaving.  Yes, preadv2() will perform
> better in some circumstances than fincore+pread.  But how much better? 
> Enough to justify this approach, or not?
> 
> Alas, the only way to really settle that is to implement fincore() and
> to subject it to a decent amount of realistic quantitative testing.
> 
> Ho hum.
> 
> Could you please hunt down some libuv developers, see if we can solicit
> some quality input from them?  As I said, we really don't want to merge
> this then find that people don't use it for some reason, or that it
> needs changes.

All I can say from a Samba perspective is that none of the ARM based
Storage boxes I have seen so far do AIO because of the base footprint
for every read. For sequential reads kernel-level readahead could kick
in properly and we should be able to give them the best of both worlds:
No context switches in the default case but also good parallel behaviour
for other workloads.  The most important benchmark for those guys is to
read a DVD image, whether it makes sense or not.

Volker

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-05  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-10 16:40 [PATCH v6 0/7] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Milosz Tanski
2014-11-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v6 1/7] vfs: Prepare for adding a new preadv/pwritev with user flags Milosz Tanski
2014-11-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v6 2/7] vfs: Define new syscalls preadv2,pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2014-11-11 21:09   ` Jeff Moyer
2014-11-12 13:18   ` mohanty bhagaban
2014-11-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v6 3/7] x86: wire up preadv2 and pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2014-11-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v6 4/7] vfs: RWF_NONBLOCK flag for preadv2 Milosz Tanski
2014-11-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v6 5/7] xfs: add RWF_NONBLOCK support Milosz Tanski
2014-11-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v6 6/7] fs: pass iocb to generic_write_sync Milosz Tanski
2014-11-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v6 7/7] fs: add a flag for per-operation O_DSYNC semantics Milosz Tanski
2014-11-11  6:44 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Dave Chinner
2014-11-11 16:02   ` Milosz Tanski
2014-11-11 17:03     ` Jeff Moyer
2014-11-11 21:42       ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-11 23:21         ` Jeff Moyer
2014-11-11 22:49       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-11-11 23:27         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-11 21:40     ` Dave Chinner
2014-11-14 16:32   ` Jeff Moyer
2014-11-14 16:39     ` Dave Jones
2014-11-14 16:51       ` Jeff Moyer
2014-11-14 18:46         ` Milosz Tanski
     [not found]       ` <20141114163912.GA23769-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-14 18:45         ` Milosz Tanski
2014-11-14 18:52           ` Jeff Moyer
     [not found] ` <cover.1415636409.git.milosz-B5zB6C1i6pkAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24  9:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-25 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2014-12-02 22:17   ` Milosz Tanski
2014-12-02 22:42     ` Andrew Morton
2014-12-03  9:10       ` Volker Lendecke
2014-12-03 16:48       ` Milosz Tanski
     [not found]         ` <CANP1eJGVyBOt1rQ8jA4tMrNGX5X61-UWbVy6kKj_ByeTqAEOBQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04 23:11           ` Andrew Morton
2014-12-05  8:17             ` Volker Lendecke [this message]
2015-01-21 14:55               ` Milosz Tanski

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