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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
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	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
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	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: prevent a race between process_mrelease and exit_mmap
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 09:37:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YX+nYGlZBOAljoeF@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpHBoMGPOUvB2ZWQ=TxbFuWBRF++UaKJZDCrQV4mzb5kMA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri 29-10-21 09:07:39, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 6:03 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
[...]
> > Well, I still do not see why that is a problem. This syscall is meant to
> > release the address space not to do it fast.
> 
> It's the same problem for a userspace memory reaper as for the
> oom-reaper. The goal is to release the memory of the victim and to
> quickly move on to the next one if needed.

The purpose of the oom_reaper is to _guarantee_ a forward progress. It
doesn't have to be quick or optimized for speed.
 
[...]

> > Btw. the above code will not really tell you much on a larger machine
> > unless you manage to trigger mmap_sem contection. Otherwise you are
> > measuring the mmap_sem writelock fast path and that should be really
> > within a noise comparing to the whole address space destruction time. If
> > that is not the case then we have a real problem with the locking...
> 
> My understanding of that discussion is that the concern was that even
> taking uncontended mmap_sem writelock would regress the exit path.
> That was what I wanted to confirm. Am I misreading it?

No, your reading match my recollection. I just think that code
robustness in exchange of a rw semaphore write lock fast path is a
reasonable price to pay even if that has some effect on micro
benchmarks.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-01  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-22  1:46 [PATCH 1/1] mm: prevent a race between process_mrelease and exit_mmap Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-22  2:24 ` Andrew Morton
2021-10-22  5:23   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-22  8:03 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22 11:32   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-22 12:04     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22 17:38   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-27 16:08     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-27 17:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-27 17:42         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-27 17:51           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-27 18:00             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-10-29 13:03       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-29 16:07         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-01  8:37           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-11-01 15:44             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-01 19:59               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-02  7:58               ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-02 15:14                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 19:01                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 19:26                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-09 19:37                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 19:50                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-09 20:02                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 20:10                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-09 21:10                               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-11  1:49                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-11  9:20                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-11 15:02                                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-12  8:58                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-12 16:00                                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-11-09 19:41                       ` Michal Hocko

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