From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/8] statx: add direct I/O alignment information
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 00:44:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrgOUw6YM2c6k59U@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c06b2d4-2d96-c4a6-7aca-5147a91e7cf2@scylladb.com>
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 02:30:47PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > * stx_dio_offset_align: the alignment (in bytes) required for file
> > offsets and I/O segment lengths for DIO, or 0 if DIO is not supported
> > on the file. This will only be nonzero if stx_dio_mem_align is
> > nonzero, and vice versa.
>
>
> If you consider AIO, this is actually three alignments:
>
> 1. offset alignment for reads (sector size in XFS)
>
> 2. offset alignment for overwrites (sector size in XFS since ed1128c2d0c87e,
> block size earlier)
>
> 3. offset alignment for appending writes (block size)
>
>
> This is critical for linux-aio since violation of these alignments will
> stall the io_submit system call. Perhaps io_uring handles it better by
> bouncing to a workqueue, but there is a significant performance and latency
> penalty for that.
I think you are mixing things up here. We actually have two limits that
matter:
a) the hard limit, which if violated will return an error.
This has been sector size for all common file systems for years,
but can be bigger than that with fscrypt in the game (which
triggered this series)
b) an optimal write size, which can be done asynchronous and
without exclusive locking.
This is what your cases 2) and 3) above refer to.
Exposting this additional optimal performance size might be a good idea
in addition to what is proposed here, even if matters a little less
with io_uring. But I'm not sure I'd additional split it into append
vs overwrite vs hole filling but just round up to the maximum of those.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-26 7:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-16 20:14 [PATCH v3 0/8] make statx() return DIO alignment information Eric Biggers
2022-06-16 20:14 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] statx: add direct I/O " Eric Biggers
2022-06-19 11:30 ` Avi Kivity
2022-06-26 7:44 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2022-06-26 10:20 ` Avi Kivity
2022-06-23 15:58 ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-06-23 17:23 ` Eric Biggers
2022-06-23 18:58 ` Eric Biggers
2022-06-26 8:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-26 7:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-16 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] vfs: support STATX_DIOALIGN on block devices Eric Biggers
2022-06-26 7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-16 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] fscrypt: change fscrypt_dio_supported() to prepare for STATX_DIOALIGN Eric Biggers
2022-06-16 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] ext4: support STATX_DIOALIGN Eric Biggers
2022-06-16 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] f2fs: move f2fs_force_buffered_io() into file.c Eric Biggers
2022-06-16 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] f2fs: don't allow DIO reads but not DIO writes Eric Biggers
2022-06-16 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] f2fs: simplify f2fs_force_buffered_io() Eric Biggers
2022-06-16 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] f2fs: support STATX_DIOALIGN Eric Biggers
2022-07-20 5:03 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] make statx() return DIO alignment information Christoph Hellwig
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