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From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Tycho Andersen <tandersen@netflix.com>,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] pidfd: allow pidfd_open() on non-thread-group leaders
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 11:54:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWjaSAhG9KI2i9NK@tycho.pizza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jh3t7e9.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 07:37:02PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Tycho Andersen:
> 
> > From: Tycho Andersen <tandersen@netflix.com>
> >
> > We are using the pidfd family of syscalls with the seccomp userspace
> > notifier. When some thread triggers a seccomp notification, we want to do
> > some things to its context (munge fd tables via pidfd_getfd(), maybe write
> > to its memory, etc.). However, threads created with ~CLONE_FILES or
> > ~CLONE_VM mean that we can't use the pidfd family of syscalls for this
> > purpose, since their fd table or mm are distinct from the thread group
> > leader's. In this patch, we relax this restriction for pidfd_open().
> 
> Does this mean that pidfd_getfd cannot currently be used to get
> descriptors for a TID if that TID doesn't happen to share its descriptor
> set with the thread group leader?

Correct, that's what I'm trying to solve.

> I'd like to offer a userspace API which allows safe stashing of
> unreachable file descriptors on a service thread.

By "safe" here do you mean not accessible via pidfd_getfd()?

Tycho

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-30 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-30 16:39 [RFC 1/3] pidfd: allow pidfd_open() on non-thread-group leaders Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 16:39 ` [RFC 2/3] selftests/pidfd: add non-thread-group leader tests Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 16:39 ` [RFC 3/3] clone: allow CLONE_THREAD | CLONE_PIDFD together Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 17:39 ` [RFC 1/3] pidfd: allow pidfd_open() on non-thread-group leaders Oleg Nesterov
2023-11-30 17:56   ` Tycho Andersen
2023-12-01 16:31     ` Tycho Andersen
2023-12-07 17:57       ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-07 21:25         ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-08 20:04           ` Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 18:37 ` Florian Weimer
2023-11-30 18:54   ` Tycho Andersen [this message]
2023-11-30 19:00     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-30 19:17       ` Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 19:43       ` Florian Weimer
2023-12-06 15:27         ` Tycho Andersen
2023-12-07 22:58         ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-08  3:16           ` Jens Axboe
2023-12-08 13:15           ` Florian Weimer
2023-12-08 13:48             ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-08 13:58               ` Florian Weimer
2023-12-07 17:21 ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-07 17:52   ` Tycho Andersen
2023-12-08 17:47   ` Jan Kara

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