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From: Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/11] mempolicy2, mbind2, and weighted interleave
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 13:09:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZYHcPiU2IzHr/tbQ@memverge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wmtanba2.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 11:04:05AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Gregory Price <gourry.memverge@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > This patch set extends the mempolicy interface to enable new
> > mempolicies which may require extended data to operate.
> >
> > MPOL_WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE is included as an example extension.
> 
> Per my understanding, it's better to describe why we need this patchset
> at the beginning.  Per my understanding, weighted interleave is used to
> expand DRAM bandwidth for workloads with real high memory bandwidth
> requirements.  Without it, DRAM bandwidth will be saturated, which leads
> to poor performance.
> 

Will add more details, thanks.

> > struct mempolicy_args {
> >     unsigned short mode;            /* policy mode */
> >     unsigned short mode_flags;      /* policy mode flags */
> >     int home_node;                  /* mbind: use MPOL_MF_HOME_NODE */
> >     nodemask_t *policy_nodes;       /* get/set/mbind */
> >     unsigned char *il_weights;      /* for mode MPOL_WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE */
> >     int policy_node;                /* get: policy node information */
> > };
> 
> Because we use more and more parameters to describe the mempolicy, I
> think it's a good idea to replace some parameters with struct.  But I
> don't think it's a good idea to put unrelated stuff into the struct.
> For example,
> 
> struct mempolicy_param {
>     unsigned short mode;            /* policy mode */
>     unsigned short mode_flags;      /* policy mode flags */
>     int home_node;                  /* mbind: use MPOL_MF_HOME_NODE */
>     nodemask_t *policy_nodes;
>     unsigned char *il_weights;      /* for mode MPOL_WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE */
> };
> 
> describe the parameters to create the mempolicy.  It can be used by
> set/get_mempolicy() and mbind().  So, I think that it's a good
> abstraction.  But "policy_node" has nothing to do with set_mempolicy()
> and mbind().  So I think that we shouldn't add it into the struct.  It's
> totally OK to use different parameters for different functions.  For
> example,
> 
> long do_set_mempolicy(struct mempolicy_param *mparam);
> long do_mbind(unsigned long start, unsigned long len,
>                 struct mempolicy_param *mparam, unsigned long flags);
> long do_get_task_mempolicy(struct mempolicy_param *mparam, int
>                 *policy_node);
> 
> This isn't the full list.  My point is to use separate parameter for
> something specific for some function.
>

this is the internal structure, but i get the point, we can drop it from
the structure and extend the arg list internally.

I'd originally thought to just remove the policy_node stuff all
together from get_mempolicy2().  Do you prefer to have a separate struct
for set/get interfaces so that the get interface struct can be extended?

All the MPOL_F_NODE "alternate data fetch" mechanisms from
get_mempolicy() feel like more of a wart than a feature.  And presently
the only data returned in policy_node is the next allocation node for
interleave.  That's not even particularly useful, so I'm of a mind to
remove it.

Assuming we remove policy_node altogether... do we still break up the
set/get interface into separate structures to avoid this in the future?

> > struct mpol_args {
> >         /* Basic mempolicy settings */
> >         __u16 mode;
> >         __u16 mode_flags;
> >         __s32 home_node;
> >         __aligned_u64 pol_nodes;
> >         __aligned_u64 *il_weights;      /* of size pol_maxnodes */
> >         __u64 pol_maxnodes;
> >         __s32 policy_node;
> > };
> 
> Same as my idea above.  I think we shouldn't add policy_node for
> set_mempolicy2()/mbind2().  That will make users confusing.  We can use
> a different struct for get_mempolicy2().
> 

See above.

~Gregory

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-19 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-18 19:46 [PATCH v4 00/11] mempolicy2, mbind2, and weighted interleave Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] mm/mempolicy: implement the sysfs-based weighted_interleave interface Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] mm/mempolicy: introduce MPOL_WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE for weighted interleaving Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] mm/mempolicy: refactor sanitize_mpol_flags for reuse Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] mm/mempolicy: create struct mempolicy_args for creating new mempolicies Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] mm/mempolicy: refactor kernel_get_mempolicy for code re-use Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] mm/mempolicy: allow home_node to be set by mpol_new Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] mm/mempolicy: add userland mempolicy arg structure Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] mm/mempolicy: add set_mempolicy2 syscall Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] mm/mempolicy: add get_mempolicy2 syscall Gregory Price
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] mm/mempolicy: add the mbind2 syscall Gregory Price
2023-12-19 12:24   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-20  0:48   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-18 19:46 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] mm/mempolicy: extend set_mempolicy2 and mbind2 to support weighted interleave Gregory Price
2023-12-19  3:07   ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-19 18:12     ` Gregory Price
2024-01-03 11:16   ` Dan Carpenter
2023-12-19  3:04 ` [PATCH v4 00/11] mempolicy2, mbind2, and " Huang, Ying
2023-12-19 18:09   ` Gregory Price [this message]
2023-12-20  2:27     ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-26  7:26       ` Gregory Price
2024-01-02  4:08         ` Huang, Ying

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