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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <dhildenb@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 4/5] random: introduce generic vDSO getrandom() implementation
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 15:32:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZnGMUMf73dMdaZWv@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240618084548.GE31592@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 10:45:48AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 02:12:40AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > Hi Andy,
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 05:06:22PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 12:08 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Provide a generic C vDSO getrandom() implementation, which operates on
> > > > an opaque state returned by vgetrandom_alloc() and produces random bytes
> > > > the same way as getrandom(). This has a the API signature:
> > > >
> > > >   ssize_t vgetrandom(void *buffer, size_t len, unsigned int flags, void *opaque_state);
> > > 
> > > Last time around, I mentioned some potential issues with this function
> > > signature, and I didn't see any answer.  My specific objection was to
> > > the fact that the caller passes in a pointer but not a length, and
> > > this potentially makes reasoning about memory safety awkward,
> > > especially if anything like CRIU is involved.
> > 
> > Oh, I understood this backwards last time - I thought you were
> > criticizing the size_t len argument, which didn't make any sense.
> > 
> > Re-reading now, what you're suggesting is that I add an additional
> > argument called `size_t opaque_len`, and then the implementation does
> > something like:
> 
> Exactly, that's how I read amluto's suggestion as well. Also, I recently
> ran into this clang rfc:
> 
>   https://discourse.llvm.org/t/rfc-enforcing-bounds-safety-in-c-fbounds-safety/70854

Alright, I'll have this for v+1. Patches already written now, for both
kernel and libc, and I'm dogfooding it.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-18 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-14 19:06 [PATCH v17 0/5] implement getrandom() in vDSO Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-14 19:06 ` [PATCH v17 1/5] mm: add VM_DROPPABLE for designating always lazily freeable mappings Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-15  2:12   ` John Hubbard
2024-06-14 19:06 ` [PATCH v17 2/5] random: add vgetrandom_alloc() syscall Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-14 19:06 ` [PATCH v17 3/5] arch: allocate vgetrandom_alloc() syscall number Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-14 19:06 ` [PATCH v17 4/5] random: introduce generic vDSO getrandom() implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-18  0:06   ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-06-18  0:12     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-18  0:38       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-18  8:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-18 13:32         ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2024-06-18 17:55       ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-06-18 19:27         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-19 11:36           ` David Laight
2024-06-14 19:06 ` [PATCH v17 5/5] x86: vdso: Wire up getrandom() vDSO implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-15  1:53   ` John Hubbard
2024-06-17 16:24     ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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