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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
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	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
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	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
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	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
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	Sidhartha Kumar <sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com>,
	Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: madvise: implement lightweight guard page mechanism
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:39:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4b7ed07-3b14-4443-aa76-77d720912cd0@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3baf8814-0a9a-4de0-b568-62d241dbba0e@nvidia.com>

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 12:25:08PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 10/21/24 10:23 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
[snip]
> > > > Just to raise it here: MADV_GUARD_INSTALL / MADV_GUARD_REMOVE or sth. like
> > > > that would have been even clearer, at least to me.
>
> Yes, I think so.
>
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > It still feels like poisoning to me because we're explicitly putting
> > > something in the page tables to make a range have different fault behaviour
> > > like a HW poisoning, and 'installing' suggests backing or something like
> > > this, I think that's more confusing.
> >
> > I connect "poison" to "SIGBUS" and "corrupt memory state", not to "there is nothing and there must not be anything". Thus my thinking. But again, not the end of the world, just wanted to raise it ...
>
> "Poison" is used so far for fairly distinct things, and I'd very much like
> to avoid extending its meaning to guard pages. It makes the other things
> less unique, and it misses a naming and classification opportunity.
>
> "Guard" and "guard page" are fairly unique names. That's valuable.
>
>
> thanks,
> --
> John Hubbard
>

Guys you're breaking my heart... Will you not leave me with even a remnant
of a cultural reference?? [0]

[0]:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mej5wS7viw

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-21 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-20 16:20 [PATCH v2 0/5] implement lightweight guard pages Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: pagewalk: add the ability to install PTEs Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 13:27   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 13:50     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: add PTE_MARKER_GUARD PTE marker Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 13:45   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 19:57     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:42     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:13       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:20         ` Dave Hansen
2024-10-21 14:13   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 14:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 14:54       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 15:33         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 15:41           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 16:00           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 16:23             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 16:44               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 16:51                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:00                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 17:14                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:21                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 17:26                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-22 19:13                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: madvise: implement lightweight guard page mechanism Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 17:15     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:23       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 19:25         ` John Hubbard
2024-10-21 19:39           ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2024-10-21 20:18             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:11   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 20:17     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:25       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 20:30         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:37         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:49           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:20             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 21:33               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:35               ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 21:46                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-22 19:18                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:45       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-22 19:08         ` Jann Horn
2024-10-22 19:35           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-22 19:57             ` Jann Horn
2024-10-22 20:45               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] tools: testing: update tools UAPI header for mman-common.h Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] selftests/mm: add self tests for guard page feature Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:31   ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-22 10:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 17:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] implement lightweight guard pages Florian Weimer
2024-10-20 19:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  6:24   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-10-23  7:19     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23  8:11       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  8:56         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-10-23  9:06           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-23  9:13             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23  9:18               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  9:29                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23 11:31                   ` Marco Elver
2024-10-23 11:36                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23 11:40                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  9:17             ` Dmitry Vyukov

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