From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 02/20] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2025 14:43:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRnG8wDSSAtkEI_z@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251115233409.768044-3-pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
On Sat, Nov 15, 2025 at 06:33:48PM -0500, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> Integrate the LUO with the KHO framework to enable passing LUO state
> across a kexec reboot.
>
> When LUO is transitioned to a "prepared" state, it tells KHO to
> finalize, so all memory segments that were added to KHO preservation
> list are getting preserved. After "Prepared" state no new segments
> can be preserved. If LUO is canceled, it also tells KHO to cancel the
> serialization, and therefore, later LUO can go back into the prepared
> state.
>
> This patch introduces the following changes:
> - During the KHO finalization phase allocate FDT blob.
This happens much earlier, isn't it?
> - Populate this FDT with a LUO compatibility string ("luo-v1").
>
> LUO now depends on `CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER`. The core state transition
> logic (`luo_do_*_calls`) remains unimplemented in this patch.
>
> Signed-off-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
> ---
> include/linux/liveupdate/abi/luo.h | 54 ++++++++++
> kernel/liveupdate/luo_core.c | 153 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> 2 files changed, 206 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> create mode 100644 include/linux/liveupdate/abi/luo.h
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/liveupdate/abi/luo.h b/include/linux/liveupdate/abi/luo.h
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..9483a294287f
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/include/linux/liveupdate/abi/luo.h
> @@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
> +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
> +
> +/*
> + * Copyright (c) 2025, Google LLC.
> + * Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
> + */
> +
> +/**
> + * DOC: Live Update Orchestrator ABI
> + *
> + * This header defines the stable Application Binary Interface used by the
> + * Live Update Orchestrator to pass state from a pre-update kernel to a
> + * post-update kernel. The ABI is built upon the Kexec HandOver framework
> + * and uses a Flattened Device Tree to describe the preserved data.
> + *
> + * This interface is a contract. Any modification to the FDT structure, node
> + * properties, compatible strings, or the layout of the `__packed` serialization
> + * structures defined here constitutes a breaking change. Such changes require
> + * incrementing the version number in the relevant `_COMPATIBLE` string to
> + * prevent a new kernel from misinterpreting data from an old kernel.
I'd add a sentence that stresses that ABI changes are possible as long they
include changes to the FDT version.
This is indeed implied by the last paragraph, but I think it's worth
spelling it explicitly.
Another thing that I think this should mention is that compatibility is
only guaranteed for the kernels that use the same ABI version.
> + *
> + * FDT Structure Overview:
> + * The entire LUO state is encapsulated within a single KHO entry named "LUO".
> + * This entry contains an FDT with the following layout:
> + *
> + * .. code-block:: none
> + *
> + * / {
> + * compatible = "luo-v1";
> + * liveupdate-number = <...>;
> + * };
> + *
> + * Main LUO Node (/):
> + *
> + * - compatible: "luo-v1"
> + * Identifies the overall LUO ABI version.
> + * - liveupdate-number: u64
> + * A counter tracking the number of successful live updates performed.
> + */
...
> +static int __init liveupdate_early_init(void)
> +{
> + int err;
> +
> + err = luo_early_startup();
> + if (err) {
> + pr_err("The incoming tree failed to initialize properly [%pe], disabling live update\n",
> + ERR_PTR(err));
How do we report this to the userspace?
I think the decision what to do in this case belongs there. Even if it's
down to choosing between plain kexec and full reboot, it's still a policy
that should be implemented in userspace.
> + luo_global.enabled = false;
> + }
> +
> + return err;
> +}
> +early_initcall(liveupdate_early_init);
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-16 12:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-15 23:33 [PATCH v6 00/20] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 01/20] liveupdate: luo_core: luo_ioctl: " Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 2:54 ` Andrew Morton
2025-11-17 14:27 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 15:45 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-18 16:11 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 02/20] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 12:43 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-11-16 14:55 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 19:16 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 18:29 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 21:05 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-18 4:22 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 11:21 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-18 14:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-18 15:06 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-18 15:18 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 15:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-18 15:46 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 16:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-18 22:07 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 23:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-19 3:03 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 03/20] kexec: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 12:44 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 04/20] liveupdate: luo_session: add sessions support Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 17:05 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 15:09 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 21:11 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-18 4:28 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 05/20] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add user interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 17:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 14:22 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 06/20] liveupdate: luo_file: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 18:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 17:50 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 17:38 ` David Matlack
2025-11-18 17:43 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-18 17:58 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 18:17 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-18 19:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-18 19:31 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 07/20] liveupdate: luo_session: Add ioctls for file preservation Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 18:25 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-18 2:58 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 08/20] liveupdate: luo_flb: Introduce File-Lifecycle-Bound global state Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 9:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-18 3:54 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 11:28 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-18 15:37 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 09/20] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 10/20] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 9:40 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 18:20 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 11/20] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 9:48 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 18:25 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 12/20] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 10:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-18 4:13 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:33 ` [PATCH v6 13/20] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 10:14 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 18:43 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:34 ` [PATCH v6 14/20] liveupdate: luo_file: add private argument to store runtime state Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 10:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 18:45 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:34 ` [PATCH v6 15/20] mm: memfd_luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 11:03 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-19 21:56 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:34 ` [PATCH v6 16/20] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:34 ` [PATCH v6 17/20] selftests/liveupdate: Add userspace API selftests Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 19:38 ` David Matlack
2025-11-17 20:16 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:34 ` [PATCH v6 18/20] selftests/liveupdate: Add kexec-based selftest for session lifecycle Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 18:53 ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-11-17 18:23 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 19:27 ` David Matlack
2025-11-17 20:08 ` David Matlack
2025-11-17 21:06 ` David Matlack
2025-11-18 1:01 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 0:06 ` David Matlack
2025-11-18 1:08 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-19 21:20 ` David Matlack
2025-11-19 22:12 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:34 ` [PATCH v6 19/20] selftests/liveupdate: Add kexec test for multiple and empty sessions Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-15 23:34 ` [PATCH v6 20/20] tests/liveupdate: Add in-kernel liveupdate test Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-17 11:13 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 19:00 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-18 11:30 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-18 18:56 ` Pasha Tatashin
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