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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	patches@lists.linux.dev, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2026 17:41:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiLuRDJcQMYGuQsc@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aiGkrQnMeyPmEvRB@1wt.eu>

On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 06:15:41PM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 08:58:33AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2026 at 08:53, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It looks like you're actually doing exactly the thing that I thought
> > > > was crazy and wouldn't even work reliably: you change the
> > > > common_response[] contents dynamically *after* the vmsplice, and
> > > > depend on the fact that changing it in user space changes the buffer
> > > > in the pipe too.
> > >
> > > No no, it's definitely not doing that (or it's a bug, but it's not
> > > supposed to happen). I'm perfectly aware that one must definitely not
> > > do that, and it's a guarantee the user of vmsplice() must provide.
> > 
> > Whew, good.
> > 
> > In that case, can you just try the vmsplice patch series (Christian
> > already found a bug, but I don't think it will necessarily matter in
> > practice - famous last words) and that test patch of mine, and see if
> > it all (a) works for you and (b) if you have any numbers for
> > performance that would be *great*.
> 
> Yes I wanted to do that and noted it on my todo list yesterday when
> noticing the ongoing discussion. Just been super busy with yesterday's
> by-yearly release ;-) But at least I wanted to share quick feedback in
> this thread about existing uses.

OK so I could run the test this afternoon, with:
  - ddd664bbff63 Merge tag 'net-7.1-rc7' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net
    (v7.1-rc6-178)

  - the same with Christian's vfs-7.2.vmsplice branch merged into it
    ( 8d86fcfc2857 include/linux/splice.h: trivial fix: declerations -> declarations)

Both show 71-72 Gbps of TLS traffic per core on my test utility (I
stopped at 3 cores since having only 2x100G at the moment), so for
this use case I'm not impacted by the change. I noted that I will
have to reconsider other options for the cache (send(MSG_ZEROCOPY)
probably) but in my case since the code doesn't exist yet it's not
per-se a userland breakage, but a change of plans. I just hope I'll
find my way through the alternate solution.

FWIW for Christian's branch:

Tested-by: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>

Willy

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-05 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-31  1:01 [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-05-31  1:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] tee: fs/splice.c: remove unused parameter "flags" from "link_pipe" Askar Safin
2026-05-31  1:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-06-03 20:56   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-03 21:17     ` Askar Safin
2026-06-04  9:06       ` David Laight
2026-06-04 14:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 17:38           ` David Laight
2026-06-04 19:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 21:32               ` David Laight
2026-06-04 21:42                 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05  9:32                   ` Florian Weimer
2026-06-05 15:54                     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:30                       ` Florian Weimer
2026-06-05 17:12                         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05  1:57                 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-06-05  8:23                   ` David Laight
2026-06-04 23:25             ` Askar Safin
2026-06-05 11:02   ` Mark Brown
2026-06-05 16:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:26       ` Mark Brown
2026-06-05 17:21         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-31  1:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] splice: remove PIPE_BUF_FLAG_GIFT Askar Safin
2026-05-31  8:54 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Pedro Falcato
2026-05-31 21:21   ` Askar Safin
2026-06-01 16:16     ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-02 21:12   ` Askar Safin
2026-06-02 21:37     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 22:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-02 22:41         ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 23:07           ` Askar Safin
2026-06-02 22:54         ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03  0:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03  1:08             ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03  3:51             ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03  4:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03  6:45                 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-03 13:40                   ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-03 15:26                     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 18:10                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 18:28                   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 19:22                     ` David Howells
2026-06-03 19:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 21:31                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 21:36                       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 21:38                         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 22:23                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 22:53                           ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 15:15                             ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-05 15:58                               ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 22:43                       ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03 22:49                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 23:00                           ` Askar Safin
2026-06-04  0:01                             ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 18:12                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-05  9:43                 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-05 12:19                   ` David Laight
2026-06-05 15:20                     ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-03 11:43               ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-03 18:14                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-01  3:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-01 15:36   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-01 15:50     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-01 16:17       ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-01 16:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 19:24       ` David Howells
2026-06-01 16:23 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-01 17:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-01 17:33     ` Al Viro
2026-06-01 20:04       ` Steven Rostedt
2026-06-02  0:28         ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-02  8:25           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 18:44             ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-03  7:50               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-04  6:32           ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 14:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 15:53               ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 15:58                 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 16:15                   ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-05 15:41                     ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2026-06-04 15:53             ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-04 16:09               ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 17:25                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03  9:57       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-06-05  8:35   ` Collin Funk
2026-06-04  0:45 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-06-04  1:52   ` Linus Torvalds

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