From: Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Richard Cochran
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Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx.
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:32:50 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231527330.7522@router.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100923214359.3f287b11-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Please do not introduce useless additional layers for clock sync. Load
> > these ptp clocks like the other regular clock modules and make them sync
> > system time like any other clock.
>
> I don't think you understand PTP. PTP has masters, a system can need to
> be honouring multiple conflicting masters at once.
The upshot of it all has to be some synchronized notion of time regardless
of how many other things are going on under the hood. And the spec here
suggests a hardware able to generate periodic accurate events that can be
used to sync system time.
> > Really guys: I want a PTP solution! Now! And not some idiotic additional
> > kernel layers that just pass bits around because its so much fun and
> > screws up clock accurary in due to the latency noise introduced while
> > having so much fun with the bits.
>
> There are some interesting complications in putting a PTP sync
> interface in kernel.
If the PTP logic internally has to juggle multiple clocks then that is a
complication for the driver ok. In any case the driver ultimately has to
provide *one* source of time for the system to sync to.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-23 20:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-23 17:30 [PATCH v6 0/8] ptp: IEEE 1588 hardware clock support Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 1/8] posix clocks: introduce a syscall for clock tuning Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <b94ef1cd9c04ef3ad5964408bd0af7251add78de.1285261534.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:48 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285271331.2587.56.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 7:29 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924072946.GA5043-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 17:55 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 22:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 22:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1009240008390.2416-bi+AKbBUZKagILUCTcTcHdKyNwTtLsGr@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24 7:55 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924075534.GB5043-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 22:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 2/8] posix clocks: dynamic clock ids Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 3/8] posix clocks: introduce a sysfs presence Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <cover.1285261533.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 17:32 ` [PATCH 4/8] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:32 ` [PATCH 5/8] ptp: Added a simulated PTP hardware clock Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` [PATCH 6/8] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <57b64051c816dc9cb856bbb9f38fc901c9d3d651.1285261535.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231348150.2962-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 20:43 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20100923214359.3f287b11-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 20:32 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2010-09-23 21:26 ` Christian Riesch
2010-09-24 11:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 8:49 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` [PATCH 7/8] ptp: Added a clock driver for the IXP46x Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:34 ` [PATCH 8/8] ptp: Added a clock driver for the National Semiconductor PHYTER Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:53 ` [PATCH v6 0/8] ptp: IEEE 1588 hardware clock support Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 18:21 ` Jacob Keller
2010-09-23 18:36 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231238170.2962-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 18:59 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285268380.2587.11.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 20:28 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 20:49 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231533040.7522-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Christian Riesch
[not found] ` <4C9BC7CE.8020400-U4+xqT1Vg0VeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-27 15:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-30 3:50 ` Christian Riesch
2010-10-02 1:44 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-09-23 21:42 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285278136.2587.154.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-27 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 16:14 ` M. Warner Losh
[not found] ` <20100927.101423.702773873740300798.imp-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-28 6:34 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 8:33 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 19:38 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285270733.2587.46.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 13:50 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924135001.GB3113-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 14:57 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:36 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:49 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285274952.2587.113.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 21:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 22:03 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <20100923213654.0c64b047-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 13:14 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924131407.GA3113-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:07 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-27 15:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 17:05 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-28 6:47 ` Richard Cochran
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