From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:00:03 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1507291358050.3825@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150729042141.GA62059@vmdeb7>
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Darren Hart wrote:
> Found it on libc-alpha, here it is for reference:
>
> From: Rich Felker <dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:43:17 -0400
> To: Darren Hart <dvhart-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
> Cc: Carlos O'Donell <carlos-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>, Roland McGrath <roland-/Z5OmTQCD9xF6kxbq+BtvQ@public.gmane.org>,
> Torvald Riegel <triegel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>, GLIBC Devel <libc-alpha-9JcytcrH/bA+uJoB2kUjGw@public.gmane.org>,
> Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: Re: Add futex wrapper to glibc?
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 06:59:15PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
> > > We are IMO at the stage where futex is stable, few things are
> > > changing, and with documentation in place, I would consider adding a
> > > futex wrapper.
> >
> > Yes, at least for the defined OP codes. New OPs may be added of
> > course, but that isn't a concern for supporting what exists today, and
> > doesn't break compatibility.
> >
> > I wonder though... can we not wrap FUTEX_REQUEUE? It's fundamentally
> > broken. FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE should *always* be used instead. The glibc
> > wrapper is one way to encourage developers to do the right thing
> > (don't expose the bad op in the header).
>
> You're mistaken here. There are plenty of valid ways to use
> FUTEX_REQUEUE - for example if the calling thread is requeuing the
> target(s) to a lock that the calling thread owns. Just because it
> doesn't meet the needs of the way glibc was using it internally
> doesn't mean it's useless for other applications.
>
> In any case, I don't think there's a proposal to intercept/modify the
> commands to futex, just to pass them through (and possibly do a
> cancellable syscall for some of them).
Fair enough. Did not think about the requeue to futex held by the
caller case. In that case FUTEX_REQUEUE works as advertised.
Thanks,
tglx
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-27 12:07 Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <55B61EF3.7080302-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-28 20:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150728204508.GG19282-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-28 21:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-08 6:56 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-29 2:09 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-29 4:11 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29 4:21 ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29 12:00 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2015-07-30 8:19 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-08 6:53 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2015-08-19 23:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-26 6:29 ` Darren Hart
2015-10-07 8:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <5614D836.7070506-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 14:36 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-05 22:21 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-08 6:57 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <55C5A85F.3020202-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 21:47 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-19 22:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-18 12:45 ` Darren Hart
2015-10-07 9:34 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <5614E71B.3040500-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-08 14:46 ` Darren Hart
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2015-07-27 14:44 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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