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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers
	<mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
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	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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	Josh Triplett <josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
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	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Will Deacon <wil>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 for 4.15 08/24] Provide cpu_opv system call
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:03:00 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1711201900160.1734@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1711201831490.1734@nanos>

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > >> + * The reason why we require all pointer offsets to be calculated by
> > >> + * user-space beforehand is because we need to use get_user_pages_fast()
> > >> + * to first pin all pages touched by each operation. This takes care of
> > > 
> > > That doesnt explain it either.
> > 
> > What kind of explication are you looking for here ? Perhaps being too close
> > to the implementation prevents me from understanding what is unclear from
> > your perspective.
> 
> What the heck are pointer offsets?
> 
> The ops have one or two pointer(s) to a lump of memory. So if a pointer
> points to the wrong lump of memory then you're screwed, but that's true for
> all pointers handed to the kernel.

So I think you mix here the 'user space programmer guide - how to set up
the magic ops - into the kernel side documentation. The kernel side does
not care about the pointers, as long as they are valid to access.

Again. Try to explain things at the conceptual level.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-20 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-14 20:03 [RFC PATCH for 4.15 00/24] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector v11 Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 03/24] Restartable sequences: wire up ARM 32 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found] ` <20171114200414.2188-1-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-14 20:03   ` [RFC PATCH v11 for 4.15 01/24] Restartable sequences " Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <CY4PR15MB168884529B3C0F8E6CC06257CF280@CY4PR15MB1688.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]       ` <CY4PR15MB168884529B3C0F8E6CC06257CF280-ZVJ2su15u+xeX4ZvlgGe+Yd3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-14 20:49         ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]           ` <CY4PR15MB1688CE0F2139CEB72B467242CF280-ZVJ2su15u+xeX4ZvlgGe+Yd3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-14 21:03             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 19:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20171116191448.rmds347hwsyibipm-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-16 20:37         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]           ` <1083699948.16848.1510864678185.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-16 20:46             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20171114200414.2188-2-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-14 20:39       ` Ben Maurer
     [not found]         ` <CY4PR15MB168866BFDCFECF81B7EF4CF1CF280-ZVJ2su15u+xeX4ZvlgGe+Yd3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-14 20:52           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <574606484.15158.1510692743725.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-14 21:48               ` Ben Maurer
2017-11-16 16:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]         ` <20171116161815.dg4hi2z35rkh4u4s-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-16 16:27           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <438349693.16595.1510849627973.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-16 16:32               ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                 ` <20171116163218.fg4u4bbzfrbxatvz-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-16 17:09                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 18:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]         ` <20171116184305.snpudnjdhua2obby-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-16 18:49           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <1523632942.16739.1510858189882.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-16 19:06               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16 20:06                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 21:08       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-19 17:24         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 02/24] Restartable sequences: ARM 32 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 04/24] Restartable sequences: x86 32/64 " Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <20171114200414.2188-5-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-16 21:14       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-19 17:41         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]           ` <1390396579.17843.1511113291117.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20  8:38             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-14 20:03   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 05/24] Restartable sequences: wire up x86 32/64 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 06/24] Restartable sequences: powerpc architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03   ` [RFC PATCH v3 for 4.15 08/24] Provide cpu_opv system call Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <20171114200414.2188-9-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-15  1:34       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-15  7:44       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <CAKgNAkjrh_OMi+7EUJxqM0-84WUxL0d_vse4neOL93EB-sGKXw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-15 14:30           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-16 23:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17  0:14         ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]           ` <20171117001410.GG2482-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-17 10:09             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 17:14               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                 ` <1756446476.17265.1510938872121.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-17 18:18                   ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                     ` <20171117181839.GH2482-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-17 18:59                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 19:15                         ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                           ` <20171117191547.GI2482-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-17 20:07                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-18 21:09                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-17 20:22                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-20 17:13                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-20 16:13         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]           ` <1766414702.18278.1511194398489.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 17:48             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-20 18:03               ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-11-20 18:42                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-20 18:39               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                 ` <204285712.18480.1511203151076.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 18:49                   ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                     ` <20171120184927.GK2482-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20 22:46                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-20 19:44                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-21 11:25                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 09/24] cpu_opv: Wire up x86 32/64 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04   ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 12/24] cpu_opv: Implement selftests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04   ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 13/24] Restartable sequences: Provide self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 14/24] Restartable sequences selftests: arm: workaround gcc asm size guess Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04   ` [RFC PATCH v5 for 4.15 17/24] membarrier: Document scheduler barrier requirements Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 21:08   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 00/24] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector v11 Linus Torvalds
     [not found]     ` <CA+55aFzZcQKEvu5S3TwD9MscqDhqq3pKa0Kam79NncjP8RnvoQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-14 21:15       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrVMvk0dsBMF8F-gPZCGnfJt=RQOvTnVzJhVaAFhEFbq2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-14 21:32           ` Paul Turner
2018-03-27 18:15             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 21:32           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <2115146800.15215.1510695175687.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-15  4:12               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrX4dzY_kyZmqR+srKZf7vVYzODH5i9bguFAzdm0dcU3ZQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-15  6:34                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:03 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 07/24] Restartable sequences: Wire up powerpc system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 10/24] cpu_opv: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 11/24] cpu_opv: Wire up ARM32 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 15/24] membarrier: selftest: Test private expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v7 for 4.15 16/24] membarrier: powerpc: Skip memory barrier in switch_mm() Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 18/24] membarrier: provide SHARED_EXPEDITED command Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171114200414.2188-19-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-15  1:36     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 19/24] membarrier: selftest: Test shared expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171114200414.2188-20-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-17 15:07     ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 20/24] membarrier: Provide core serializing command Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 21/24] x86: Introduce sync_core_before_usermode Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH v2 for 4.15 22/24] membarrier: x86: Provide core serializing command Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 23/24] membarrier: selftest: Test private expedited sync core cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-17 15:09   ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-17 16:17     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 20:04 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 24/24] membarrier: arm64: Provide core serializing command Mathieu Desnoyers

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