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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "Adalbert Lazăr" <alazar@bitdefender.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Alexander Graf" <graf@amazon.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Jerome Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Mihai Donțu" <mdontu@bitdefender.com>,
	"Mircea Cirjaliu" <mcirjaliu@bitdefender.com>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Sargun Dhillon" <sargun@sargun.me>,
	"Aleksa Sarai" <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>, "Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Christian Brauner" <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND RFC PATCH 0/5] Remote mapping
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 22:08:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bcc4affe-416e-ccb6-1ab1-5144de30f546@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200904194139.GA5881@casper.infradead.org>

On 04/09/20 21:41, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> Proposal: http://www.wil.cx/~willy/linux/sileby.html
> Start at implementation:
> http://git.infradead.org/users/willy/linux.git/shortlog/refs/heads/mshare

The main difference between mshare() and this is that we don't want an
all-or-nothing thing.

Adalbert's introspection thing is rather simple, but what I would like
to be able to do (and the reason why I suggested the multi-pidfd
approach) is actually a bit more complex:

- a parent process creates a range of memory

- there are multiple VMs child processes.  One of this VM is a primary
VM, the others are enclave VMs.  VMs are created by the parent process
and each VM gets a different view of the memory range through pidfd_mem.

- once an enclave VM is created, the primary VM must not be able to
access the memory that has been assigned to the enclave VM.  If the
parent unmaps the memory in the primary VM, the child must SIGBUS when
it's accessed.

- if memory is removed from a VM and assigned to another, this should
not involve any copy at all.

For this usecase the range of memory would be backed by hugetlbfs,
anonymous memory, VFIO, whatever.  Userfaultfd is certainly part of the
picture here on the VM side.  Having userfaultfd on the parent side
would be nice though I don't have a use for it right now.  I'm not sure
about non-anonymous VMAs.

Thanks,

Paolo


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-04 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-04 11:31 [RESEND RFC PATCH 0/5] Remote mapping Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 1/5] mm: add atomic capability to zap_details Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 2/5] mm: let the VMA decide how zap_pte_range() acts on mapped pages Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/mmu_notifier: remove lockdep map, allow mmu notifier to be used in nested scenarios Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 12:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 4/5] mm/remote_mapping: use a pidfd to access memory belonging to unrelated process Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 17:55   ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-07 14:30   ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-07 15:16     ` Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-09  8:32     ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-10 16:43       ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-07 15:02   ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-07 16:04     ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 5/5] pidfd_mem: implemented remote memory mapping system call Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 19:18   ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-07 14:55   ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-04 12:11 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 0/5] Remote mapping Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 13:24   ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-04 13:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 14:18       ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-04 14:39         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 15:40           ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-04 16:11             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 19:41   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-04 19:49     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 20:08     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2020-12-01 18:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 19:19 ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-04 20:18   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-07  8:33     ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-04 19:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-04 20:09   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-04 20:34     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-04 21:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-04 23:17         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-05 18:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-07  8:38             ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-07 12:41           ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-07  7:05         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-07  8:44           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-07 10:25   ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-07 15:05 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-07 20:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-09 11:38     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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