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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 17/20] fs/proc/task_mmu: remove per-page mapcount dependency for PM_MMAP_EXCLUSIVE (CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 11:56:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c41ddeb7-ddf3-4465-8567-bde5f8d3aaec@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250224165603.1434404-18-david@redhat.com>

On 24.02.25 17:55, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Let's implement an alternative when per-page mapcounts in large folios are
> no longer maintained -- soon with CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT.
> 
> PM_MMAP_EXCLUSIVE will now be set if folio_likely_mapped_shared() is
> true -- when the folio is considered "mapped shared", including when
> it once was "mapped shared" but no longer is, as documented.
> 
> This might result in and under-indication of "exclusively mapped", which
> is considered better than over-indicating it: under-estimating the USS
> (Unique Set Size) is better than over-estimating it.
> 
> As an alternative, we could simply remove that flag with
> CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT completely, but there might be value to it. So,
> let's keep it like that and document the behavior.
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> ---
>   Documentation/admin-guide/mm/pagemap.rst |  9 +++++++++
>   fs/proc/task_mmu.c                       | 11 +++++++++--
>   2 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/pagemap.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/pagemap.rst
> index 49590306c61a0..131c86574c39a 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/pagemap.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/pagemap.rst
> @@ -37,6 +37,15 @@ There are four components to pagemap:
>      precisely which pages are mapped (or in swap) and comparing mapped
>      pages between processes.
>   
> +   Note that in some kernel configurations, all pages part of a larger
> +   allocation (e.g., THP) might be considered "mapped shared" if the large
> +   allocation is considered "mapped shared": if not all pages are exclusive to
> +   the same process. Further, some kernel configurations might consider larger
> +   allocations "mapped shared", if they were at one point considered
> +   "mapped shared", even if they would now be considered "exclusively mapped".
> +   Consequently, in these kernel configurations, bit 56 might be set although
> +   the page is actually "exclusively mapped"

I rewrote this yet another time to maybe make it clearer ...

+   Traditionally, bit 56 indicates that a page is mapped exactly once and bit
+   56 is clear when a page is mapped multiple times, even when mapped in the
+   same process multiple times. In some kernel configurations, the semantics
+   for pages part of a larger allocation (e.g., THP) differ: bit 56 is set if
+   all pages part of the corresponding large allocation are *certainly* mapped
+   in the same process, even if the page is mapped multiple times in that
+   process. Bit 56 is clear when any page page of the larger allocation
+   is *maybe* mapped in a different process. In some cases, a large allocation
+   might be treated as "maybe mapped by multiple processes" even though this
+   is no longer the case.

(talking about "process" is not completely correct, it's actually "MMs"; but
that might add more confusion here)

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-25 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-24 16:55 [PATCH v2 00/20] mm: MM owner tracking for large folios (!hugetlb) + CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] mm: factor out large folio handling from folio_order() into folio_large_order() David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] mm: factor out large folio handling from folio_nr_pages() into folio_large_nr_pages() David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] mm: let _folio_nr_pages overlay memcg_data in first tail page David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] mm: move hugetlb specific things in folio to page[3] David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] mm: move _pincount in folio to page[2] on 32bit David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] mm: move _entire_mapcount " David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] mm/rmap: pass dst_vma to folio_dup_file_rmap_pte() and friends David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] mm/rmap: pass vma to __folio_add_rmap() David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] mm/rmap: abstract large mapcount operations for large folios (!hugetlb) David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] bit_spinlock: __always_inline (un)lock functions David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] mm/rmap: use folio_large_nr_pages() in add/remove functions David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] mm/rmap: basic MM owner tracking for large folios (!hugetlb) David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] mm: Copy-on-Write (COW) reuse support for PTE-mapped THP David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] mm: convert folio_likely_mapped_shared() to folio_maybe_mapped_shared() David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] mm: CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT to prepare for not maintain per-page mapcounts in large folios David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] fs/proc/page: remove per-page mapcount dependency for /proc/kpagecount (CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT) David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 20:40   ` Zi Yan
2025-02-24 21:02     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 21:10       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 21:10       ` Zi Yan
2025-02-24 21:15         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 21:23           ` Zi Yan
2025-02-24 21:42             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 21:44               ` Zi Yan
2025-02-24 21:53                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:55 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] fs/proc/task_mmu: remove per-page mapcount dependency for PM_MMAP_EXCLUSIVE (CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT) David Hildenbrand
2025-02-25 10:56   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-02-24 16:56 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] fs/proc/task_mmu: remove per-page mapcount dependency for "mapmax" (CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT) David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 20:45   ` Zi Yan
2025-02-24 21:04     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:56 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] fs/proc/task_mmu: remove per-page mapcount dependency for smaps/smaps_rollup (CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT) David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 20:53   ` Zi Yan
2025-02-24 21:17     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 16:56 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] mm: stop maintaining the per-page mapcount of large folios (CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT) David Hildenbrand

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