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From: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Robert Love <rlove-L7G0xEPcOZbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	John McCutchan <ttb-/fF4VJJ1vBJctGpslLZhzA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [1/1] Use pid in inotify events.
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:15:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd18e0f0811100915o8ea98a0s816921cee3163c1c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081110152043.GB15796-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>

Hi Evgeniy,

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hi Michael.
>
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 11:58:30AM -0500, Michael Kerrisk (mtk.manpages-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org) wrote:
>> It's perhaps unfortunate that the structure wasn't padded out with a
>> few additional fields "for future use".  But -- maybe it is not really
>> true that we can't change things.  Two things to consider:
>>
>> a) We now (since 2.6.27) have an inotify_init1() which has a flags argument.
>> b) There are spare bits in the mask argument of inotify_add_watch()
>>
>> We could use a flag in either of these to say that we want a different
>> structure returned on read() from the inotify descriptor.  In the
>> first case, this would be a global setting for all inotify events on
>> that descriptor.  In the second, we could do it on a per-watch basis
>> (I'm not so sure that that is a nice idea).  Since we are in any case
>> extending the ABI, and new applications would need to be taught about
>> the extension, it seems we could consider either of the alternative
>> extensions I mentioned, which woul also allow the PID to be obtained
>> for rename() events.  What do you think?
>
> This may be a good idea for some serious ABI change. I think we could
> extend it even more to include IO offset/size into events and attribute
> changes.

Are you going to revise your patch to use this idea?

Cheers,

Michael

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-10 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20081108114225.GA22674@ioremap.net>
     [not found] ` <20081108114225.GA22674-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 14:25   ` [1/1] Use pid in inotify events Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]     ` <cfd18e0f0811080625w5b285cc0p2410e8d187b025c7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 15:35       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]         ` <20081108153545.GA3859-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 16:58           ` Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]             ` <cfd18e0f0811080858k7f6cddadg962771ed0cb3bdb8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 17:04               ` Robert Love
     [not found]                 ` <acdcfe7e0811080904y7eb461d3n70b0765d8b1e9011-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 17:27                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-10 15:20               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                 ` <20081110152043.GB15796-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-10 17:15                   ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <cfd18e0f0811100915o8ea98a0s816921cee3163c1c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-10 17:20                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found] <acdcfe7e0811081035l56eedf05x8b3b7ee2fc01eee6@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <acdcfe7e0811081035l56eedf05x8b3b7ee2fc01eee6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 18:40   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]     ` <20081108184013.GA11888-i6C2adt8DTjR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 22:03       ` Evgeniy Polyakov

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