From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel-AhlLAIvw+VEjIGhXcJzhZg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
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Linux Kernel Mailing List
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Linus Torvalds
<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [patch/rfc] eventfd semaphore-like behavior
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:48:45 +1300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd18e0f0902041548q3c392cb0wb642cb00bc58c1b3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902041526590.6214-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Davide Libenzi <davidel-AhlLAIvw+VEjIGhXcJzhZg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:18:43 -0800 (PST)
>> Davide Libenzi <davidel-AhlLAIvw+VEjIGhXcJzhZg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Simple test here:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.xmailserver.org/eventfd-sem.c
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Signed-off-by: Davide Libenzi <davidel-AhlLAIvw+VEjIGhXcJzhZg@public.gmane.org>
>> > > >
>> > > > +/*
>> > > > + * CAREFUL: Check include/asm-generic/fcntl.h when defining
>> > > > + * new flags, since they might collide with O_* ones. We want
>> > > > + * to re-use O_* flags that couldn't possibly have a meaning
>> > > > + * from eventfd, in order to leave a free define-space for
>> > > > + * shared O_* flags.
>> > > > + */
>> > > > +#define EFD_SEMAPHORE (1 << 0)
>> > > > #define EFD_CLOEXEC O_CLOEXEC
>> > > > #define EFD_NONBLOCK O_NONBLOCK
>> > > >
>> > > > +#define EFD_SHARED_FCNTL_FLAGS (O_CLOEXEC | O_NONBLOCK)
>> > > > +#define EFD_FLAGS_SET (EFD_SHARED_FCNTL_FLAGS | EFD_SEMAPHORE)
>> > >
>> > > How would you recommend that userspace determine whether its kernel
>> > > supports this feature, bearing in mind that someone might backport this
>> > > patch into arbitrarily earlier kernel versions?
>> > >
>> > > What should be userspace's fallback strategy if that support is not
>> > > present?
>> >
>> > #ifdef EFD_SEMAPHORE, maybe?
>>
>> That's compile-time. People who ship binaries will probably want
>> to find a runtime thing for back-compatibility.
>
> I dunno. How do they actually do when we add new flags, like the O_ ones?
Maybe I missed something, but I think we're okay, aren't we? Viz:
a) The glibc eventfd() wrapper invokes sys_eventfd2() (which allows a
flags arg) if it is available, and otherwise fall back to
sys_eventfd() (which does not support a flags arg).
b) If glibc falls back to sys_eventfd(), then it knows to reject
non-zero flags. (The glibc wrapper already does this.)
c) If the old sys_eventfd2() is given a flag that it doesn't
recognize, then it fails with EINVAL. (That check is already in the
code.)
So, userspace can determine whether EFD_SEMAPHORE is supported by not
getting an EINVAL error. (Okay, this falls down for binaries that
bypass glibc's eventfd() wrapper, but there are unlikely to be such
binaries.)
Cheers,
Michael
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[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902041349180.6214-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-04 23:05 ` [patch/rfc] eventfd semaphore-like behavior Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20090204150507.665b5b7c.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-04 23:18 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902041509060.6214-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-04 23:24 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20090204152434.c8f65d52.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-04 23:27 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902041526590.6214-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-04 23:48 ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2009-02-04 23:55 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20090204155514.6abbdc8f.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-04 23:59 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <cfd18e0f0902041559l4c40d9b6k704068337a00df7a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 0:02 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902041600170.6214-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-30 5:21 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <AANLkTim_seWr0LZJyC+dPBy-N+_NkzTx21vte7qrwunC-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-30 5:24 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-08-30 14:22 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-02-05 0:18 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20090204161816.b93a4588.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 0:25 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902041621360.6214-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-05 0:34 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-05 0:26 ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-02-04 23:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
[not found] ` <a36005b50902041545qb9ce459y710bb3b9b8949b17-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-04 23:49 ` Michael Kerrisk
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