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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm: introduce MAP_FIXED_SAFE
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:45:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc021363-bc42-dbf3-7712-2f71a500eb77@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171120093309.wobvu6mixbk75m3v@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 11/20/2017 10:33 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 20-11-17 10:10:32, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 09:55 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Fri 17-11-17 08:30:48, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2017 11:18 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>>> +	if (flags & MAP_FIXED_SAFE) {
>>>>> +		struct vm_area_struct *vma = find_vma(mm, addr);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +		if (vma && vma->vm_start <= addr)
>>>>> +			return -ENOMEM;
>>>>> +	}
>>>>
>>>> Could you pick a different error code which cannot also be caused by a an
>>>> unrelated, possibly temporary condition?  Maybe EBUSY or EEXIST?
>>>
>>> Hmm, none of those are described in the man page. I am usually very
>>> careful to not add new and potentially unexpected error codes but it is
>>
>> I think this is a bad idea.  It leads to bizarre behavior, like open failing
>> with EOVERFLOW with certain namespace configurations (which have nothing to
>> do with file sizes).
> 
> Ohh, I agree but breaking userspace is, you know, no-no. And an
> unexpected error codes can break things terribly.

On the glibc side, we see a lot of changes in error codes depending on 
kernel version, build and run-time configuration.  It never occurred to 
me that you guys think the precise error code is part of the userspace 
ABI.  Personally, I even assume that failure itself can disappear at any 
time (evidence: the f* functions which accept O_PATH in their non-*at 
variants).

Thanks,
Florian

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-20  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-16 10:18 (unknown), Michal Hocko
2017-11-16 10:18 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm: introduce MAP_FIXED_SAFE Michal Hocko
2017-11-17  0:27   ` Kees Cook
     [not found]     ` <CAGXu5jKssQCcYcZujvQeFy5LTzhXSW=f-a0riB=4+caT1i38BQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-17 19:12       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-11-20  8:43         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-17  7:30   ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-20  8:55     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-20  9:10       ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]         ` <37a6e9ba-e0df-b65f-d5ef-871c25b5cb87-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-20  9:33           ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-20  9:45             ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2017-11-17  8:37   ` John Hubbard
2017-11-20  9:02     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-16 10:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs, elf: drop MAP_FIXED usage from elf_map Michal Hocko
2017-11-17  0:30   ` Kees Cook
     [not found] ` <20171116101900.13621-1-mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-16 12:14   ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: introduce MAP_FIXED_SAFE Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <20171116121438.6vegs4wiahod3byl-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-17  8:45       ` John Hubbard
2017-11-20  9:05         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-22  1:48           ` John Hubbard
2017-11-22 13:12             ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-22 13:20               ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-24  8:54     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-27 15:51       ` Khalid Aziz

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