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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: "André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rich Felker" <dalias@aerifal.cx>,
	"Torvald Riegel" <triegel@redhat.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	kernel-dev@igalia.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] futex: how to solve the robust_list race condition?
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2026 12:13:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lhusearzp8o.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1e24288-6ffc-438d-8a2a-d152134c9555@efficios.com> (Mathieu Desnoyers's message of "Fri, 20 Feb 2026 18:17:36 -0500")

* Mathieu Desnoyers:

> Trying to find a backward compatible way to solve this may be tricky.
> Here is one possible approach I have in mind: Introduce a new syscall,
> e.g. sys_cleanup_robust_list(void *addr)
>
> This system call would be invoked on pthread_mutex_destroy(3) of
> robust mutexes, and do the following:
>
> - Calculate the offset of @addr within its mapping,
> - Iterate on all processes which map the backing store which contain
>   the lock address @addr.
>   - Iterate on each thread sibling within each of those processes,
>     - If the thread has a robust list, and its list_op_pending points
>       to the same offset within the backing store mapping, clear the
>       list_op_pending pointer.
>
> The overhead would be added specifically to pthread_mutex_destroy(3),
> and only for robust mutexes.

Would we have to do this for pthread_mutex_destroy only, or also for
pthread_join?  It is defined to exit a thread with mutexes still locked,
and the pthread_join call could mean that the application can determine
by its own logic that the backing store can be deallocated.

Thanks,
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-23 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-20 20:26 [RFC PATCH 0/2] futex: how to solve the robust_list race condition? André Almeida
2026-02-20 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] futex: Create reproducer for robust_list race condition André Almeida
2026-03-12  9:04   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-12 13:36     ` André Almeida
2026-02-20 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] futex: hack: Add debug delays André Almeida
2026-02-20 20:51 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] futex: how to solve the robust_list race condition? Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-27 19:15   ` André Almeida
2026-02-20 21:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-02-20 22:41   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-02-20 23:17     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-02-23 11:13       ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2026-02-23 13:37         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-02-23 13:47           ` Rich Felker
2026-02-27 19:16       ` André Almeida
2026-02-27 19:59         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-02-27 20:41           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-03-01 15:49           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-02  7:31             ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-02 14:57               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-02 15:32                 ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-02 16:32                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-02 16:42                     ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-02 16:56                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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