From: Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Ashwin Ganti <ashwin.ganti@gmail.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
rsc@swtch.com, ericvh@gmail.com,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
Ron Minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>,
jt.beard@gmail.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morgan <morgan@kernel.org>,
oleg@us.ibm.com, Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] p9auth: add p9auth driver
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:57:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <w2wf73f7ab81004212157o371c5738o10c8b6ff807ba36a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m11ve81usw.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 15:15, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com> writes:
>
>> Ignoring namespaces for a moment, I guess we could do something like
>>
>> struct credentials_pass {
>> pid_t global_pid;
>> unsigned long unique_id;
>> uid_t new_uid;
>> gid_t new_gid;
>> int num_aux_gids;
>> gid_t aux_gids[];
>> }
>
> This looks surprising like what I am doing in passing uids and pids
> through unix domain sockets.
>
> So if this looks like a direction we want to go it shouldn't be too
> difficult.
Hmm... for an alternative idea:
We have this nice "kernel keyring" infrastructure that lets us stuff
arbitrary things into "keys" and grant/revoke them between processes.
What if we created a relatively generic way for processes to package
up privileges (of whatever form) into a "key" that could be granted to
another process (via UNIX-domain socket)? Then the other process
would use a setuid()-ish syscall which would instead apply a specific
key as your credentials, possibly including the audit context and/or
namespaces it came from.
By using the keyring system, such tokens could be kept around across
multiple processes easily (as opposed to FDs), in the same style as a
"sudo" ticket file, for example (even with an expiration time).
Types of credentials you could pass around:
* Capabilities
* Filesystem UID/GID in a particular UID namespace (for FS operations)
* Process UID/GID in a particular UID namespace (for kill(), etc)
* Audit contexts
* SELinux/etc security labels
All of the above could be optionally limited to effectively require a
bprm-secure-style exec() with specific args. So for example, instead
of making "/usr/sbin/passwd" a setuid program, you could make it be an
unprivileged helper. It would connect to a privileged daemon and ask
for a password-change cookie for that particular user. The daemon
would create what is essentially a "delayed exec" key which grants a
specific UID and capabilities when that process performs an execkey().
So as an example, you could rewrite "sudo" as a partially-privileged
daemon and an unprivileged helper. The unpriv helper would send
across a request (optionally including the command and environment)
which would be checked by the daemon. It would then issue a key to
allow the unpriv helper to perform a limited exec.
Another option would be to rewrite network login programs (eg OpenSSH)
to use this for privilege separation. The listening process would get
a non-expiring key to allow it to exec a partially-privileged
password-checking program. If the password-checking program likes the
password it generates a single-use key to pass back to the forked
network process that allows it to exec a program as that user.
Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-22 4:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <20100421012749.GA21338-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 1:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] p9auth: add p9auth driver Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20100421012908.GB24251-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 3:04 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20100421030406.GB10258-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 3:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 4:18 ` Ashwin Ganti
2010-04-21 13:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20100421134759.GE16326-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 14:44 ` Ashwin Ganti
2010-04-21 4:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1zl0xo1m9.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 13:21 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-24 3:36 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-24 16:25 ` ron minnich
[not found] ` <n2s13426df11004240925id540ed94mc2ebafada0099ec4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-24 18:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-04-25 3:24 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 9:27 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20100421102739.6ad932fb-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 13:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 14:19 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20100421151917.5ae20265-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 15:09 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 19:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-04-21 20:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-22 4:57 ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
[not found] ` <w2wf73f7ab81004212157o371c5738o10c8b6ff807ba36a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-22 14:36 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 13:55 ` Eric Paris
2010-04-21 14:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-04-21 10:49 ` David Howells
2010-04-21 13:40 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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