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From: Enke Chen <enkechen@cisco.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 20:57:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08366d06-9f47-b80e-3662-a84c5107be89@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121173341.707a0a869bf16b85f09d75b5@linux-foundation.org>

Hi, Andrew:

As suggested, I will post them as a patch series (with the same version v5):

    [PATCH v5 1/2] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification
    [PATCH v5 2/2] selftests/prctl: selftest for pre-coredump signal notification

I have a diff for the manpage as well. I guess that it should be submitted separately
from the code.

Thanks.  -- Enke

On 11/21/18 5:33 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:09:50 -0800 Enke Chen <enkechen@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Andrew:
>>
>> On 11/21/18 4:37 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 17:46:29 +0100 Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/29, Enke Chen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. I didn't say this ;)
>>>>
>>>> But OK, feel free to keep this tag.
>>>>
>>>> I do not like this feauture.
>>>
>>> Why is that?
>>>
>>>> But I see no technical problems in this version
>>>> and I never pretented I understand the user-space needs, so I won't argue.
>>>
>>> The changelog appears to spell this all out quite well?  Unusually
>>> well, in my experience ;)
>>
>> I also followed up with a little more explanation in the email thread on
>> 10/30/2018:
>>
>> ---
>> As I explained earlier, the primary application is in the area of network
>> high-availability / non-stop-forwarding where early fault notification and
>> early action can help maintain BFD sessions and thus avoid unnecessary
>> disruption to forwarding while the control-plane is recovering.
>> ---
>>
>> BTW, I probably should have pointed out this earlier:
>>
>> BFD stands for "RFC 5880: Bi-directional forwarding detection".
> 
> I saw that.  My point is that your above followup wasn't necessary -
> the changelog is clear!
> 
>>>
>>> - As it's a linux-specific feature, a test under
>>>   tools/testing/selftests would be appropriate.  I don't know how much
>>>   that work will be. 
>>
>> The selftest code was submitted on 10/25/2018:
>>
>>    [PATCH] selftests/prctl: selftest for pre-coredump signal notification
> 
> OK, please prepare these as a patch series.
> 
>>> Do we have other linux-specific signal extensions which could piggyback onto that?
>>
>> No. There are enough existing signals that an application can choose for this
>> purpose, such as SIGUSR1, SIGUSR1, and any of the RT signals.
>>
> 
> My point is that if we have previously added any linux-specific signal
> expensions then your selftest patch would be an appropriate place where
> we could add tests for those features.  I'm not saying that you should
> add such tests at this time, but please do prepare the selftest as a
> thing which tests linux-specific signal extensions in general, not as a
> thing which tests pre-coredump signals only.
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Enke Chen <enkechen@cisco.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Kate Stewart <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Marcos Paulo de Souza <marcos.souza.org@gmail.com>,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"Victor Kamensky (kamensky)" <kamensky@cisco.com>,
	xe-linux-external@cisco.com, Stefan Strogin <sstrogin@cisco.com>,
	Enke Chen <enkechen@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 20:57:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08366d06-9f47-b80e-3662-a84c5107be89@cisco.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181122045731.H7mIDuSBvli0bfJuz7IMKEMVYCi8DbBsY-a8OPWxT4o@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121173341.707a0a869bf16b85f09d75b5@linux-foundation.org>

Hi, Andrew:

As suggested, I will post them as a patch series (with the same version v5):

    [PATCH v5 1/2] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification
    [PATCH v5 2/2] selftests/prctl: selftest for pre-coredump signal notification

I have a diff for the manpage as well. I guess that it should be submitted separately
from the code.

Thanks.  -- Enke

On 11/21/18 5:33 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:09:50 -0800 Enke Chen <enkechen@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Andrew:
>>
>> On 11/21/18 4:37 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 17:46:29 +0100 Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/29, Enke Chen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. I didn't say this ;)
>>>>
>>>> But OK, feel free to keep this tag.
>>>>
>>>> I do not like this feauture.
>>>
>>> Why is that?
>>>
>>>> But I see no technical problems in this version
>>>> and I never pretented I understand the user-space needs, so I won't argue.
>>>
>>> The changelog appears to spell this all out quite well?  Unusually
>>> well, in my experience ;)
>>
>> I also followed up with a little more explanation in the email thread on
>> 10/30/2018:
>>
>> ---
>> As I explained earlier, the primary application is in the area of network
>> high-availability / non-stop-forwarding where early fault notification and
>> early action can help maintain BFD sessions and thus avoid unnecessary
>> disruption to forwarding while the control-plane is recovering.
>> ---
>>
>> BTW, I probably should have pointed out this earlier:
>>
>> BFD stands for "RFC 5880: Bi-directional forwarding detection".
> 
> I saw that.  My point is that your above followup wasn't necessary -
> the changelog is clear!
> 
>>>
>>> - As it's a linux-specific feature, a test under
>>>   tools/testing/selftests would be appropriate.  I don't know how much
>>>   that work will be. 
>>
>> The selftest code was submitted on 10/25/2018:
>>
>>    [PATCH] selftests/prctl: selftest for pre-coredump signal notification
> 
> OK, please prepare these as a patch series.
> 
>>> Do we have other linux-specific signal extensions which could piggyback onto that?
>>
>> No. There are enough existing signals that an application can choose for this
>> purpose, such as SIGUSR1, SIGUSR1, and any of the RT signals.
>>
> 
> My point is that if we have previously added any linux-specific signal
> expensions then your selftest patch would be an appropriate place where
> we could add tests for those features.  I'm not saying that you should
> add such tests at this time, but please do prepare the selftest as a
> thing which tests linux-specific signal extensions in general, not as a
> thing which tests pre-coredump signals only.
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-22  4:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-13  0:33 [PATCH] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification Enke Chen
2018-10-13  0:33 ` Enke Chen
2018-10-13  6:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-13  6:40   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:16   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:16     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:43     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:43       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:49       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:49         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:58         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-15 18:58           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-13 10:44 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-13 10:44   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-15 18:39   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:39     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-13 18:27 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-13 18:27   ` Jann Horn
2018-10-15 18:36   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:36     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:54     ` Jann Horn
2018-10-15 18:54       ` Jann Horn
2018-10-15 19:23       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:23         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-19 23:01       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-19 23:01         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-22 15:40         ` Jann Horn
2018-10-22 15:40           ` Jann Horn
2018-10-22 20:48           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-22 20:48             ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 12:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-15 12:05   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-15 18:54   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 18:54     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:17   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:17     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:26     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 19:26       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-16 14:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-16 14:14       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-16 15:09       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-16 15:09         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-17  0:39       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-17  0:39         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 21:21 ` Alan Cox
2018-10-15 21:21   ` Alan Cox
2018-10-15 21:31   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 21:31     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-15 23:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-15 23:28   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-16  0:33   ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-10-16  0:33     ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-10-16  0:54   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-16  0:54     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-16 15:26     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-16 15:26       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-22 21:09 ` [PATCH v2] " Enke Chen
2018-10-22 21:09   ` Enke Chen
2018-10-23  9:23   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-23  9:23     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-23 19:43     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-23 19:43       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-23 21:40       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-23 21:40         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 13:52       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 13:52         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 21:56         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 21:56           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24  5:39   ` [PATCH v3] " Enke Chen
2018-10-24  5:39     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 14:02     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 14:02       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-24 22:02       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 22:02         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 22:56     ` [PATCH v4] " Enke Chen
2018-10-25 22:56       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-26  8:28       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-26  8:28         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-26 22:23         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-26 22:23           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-29 11:18           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-29 11:18             ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-29 21:08             ` Enke Chen
2018-10-29 21:08               ` Enke Chen
2018-10-29 22:31             ` [PATCH v5] " Enke Chen
2018-10-29 22:31               ` Enke Chen
2018-10-30 16:46               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-30 16:46                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-31  0:25                 ` Enke Chen
2018-10-31  0:25                   ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  0:37                 ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  0:37                   ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  1:09                   ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  1:09                     ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  1:18                     ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  1:18                       ` Enke Chen
2018-11-22  1:33                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  1:33                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  4:57                       ` Enke Chen [this message]
2018-11-22  4:57                         ` Enke Chen
2018-11-12 23:22               ` Enke Chen
2018-11-12 23:22                 ` Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54               ` [PATCH v5 1/2] " Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54                 ` Enke Chen
2018-11-28 15:19                 ` Dave Martin
2018-11-28 15:19                   ` Dave Martin
2018-11-29  0:15                   ` Enke Chen
2018-11-29  0:15                     ` Enke Chen
2018-11-29 11:55                     ` Dave Martin
2018-11-29 11:55                       ` Dave Martin
2018-11-30  0:27                       ` Enke Chen
2018-11-30  0:27                         ` Enke Chen
2018-11-30 12:03                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-11-30 12:03                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-12-05  6:47                       ` Jann Horn
2018-12-05  6:47                         ` Jann Horn
2018-12-04 22:37                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-12-04 22:37                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-12-06 17:29                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-12-06 17:29                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25 22:56     ` [PATCH] selftests/prctl: selftest for pre-coredump signal notification Enke Chen
2018-10-25 22:56       ` Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54       ` [PATCH v5 2/2] " Enke Chen
2018-11-27 22:54         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 13:29   ` [PATCH v2] kernel/signal: Signal-based pre-coredump notification Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-24 13:29     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-24 23:50     ` Enke Chen
2018-10-24 23:50       ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 12:23       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-25 12:23         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-25 20:45         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 20:45           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:24         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:24           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:56         ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 21:56           ` Enke Chen
2018-10-25 13:45     ` Jann Horn
2018-10-25 13:45       ` Jann Horn
2018-10-25 20:21       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-25 20:21         ` Eric W. Biederman

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