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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Accessing memory remote across the bus in the same way as local memory
Date: 19 Jun 2004 09:02:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1087653778.2121.29.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16595.48028.925656.212915@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 23:05, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> Not on iSeries machines (ppc64 machines running OS/400).  There we
> have to do a hypervisor call for every access to PCI memory or I/O
> space, unfortunately.  Fortunately people don't tend to put arbitrary
> PCI adaptors in iSeries boxes, and they don't run X servers.  Linux
> partitions on iSeries machines are mostly used for things like
> firewalls and web servers.

Heh, I guessed there'd be one architecture that couldn't do this.

> What did you want to be able to do this for?  It probably isn't the
> end of the world if whatever you want to do with this doesn't work on
> iSeries.

The basic issue is can we declare memory that resides on a device chip
(or on a memory controller behind a PCI bridge) to the system so that it
can be used almost identically to real memory (just with a bunch of
restrictions).

The request is coming from an ARM developer who has an OHCI chip with 32
on chip sram.  He wants dma_alloc_coherent() to hand out the on-chip
memory so that he doesn't have to modify the generic OHCI driver to be
able to use a separate memory area.

However, most modern devices seem to come with on-board memory for
descriptors, ring buffers and the like (mainly for efficiency since the
device can access them without having to do a bus to main memory
transaction), so I was wondering if allocating from this on-board pool
could be folded into the DMA API so that dma_alloc_coherent() could
manage it for every such device.

James

      reply	other threads:[~2004-06-19 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-18 23:26 Accessing memory remote across the bus in the same way as local memory James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:32 ` David S. Miller
2004-06-18 23:43   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19  4:05 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-06-19 14:02   ` James Bottomley [this message]

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