From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
npiggin@suse.de, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, jeremy@goop.org,
mingo@elte.hu, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:04:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1213113887.24701.119.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1213112683.3440.20.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 10:44 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 15:51 +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > I was thinking whether this condition can be removed and allow the
> > smp_call_function*() to be called with IRQs disabled. At a quick look,
> > it seems to be possible if the csd_flag_wait() function calls the IPI
> > handlers directly when the IRQs are disabled (see the patch below).
[...]
> > Please let me know what you think or whether deadlocks are still
> > possible (or any other solution apart from hardware fixes :-)). Thanks.
>
> I don't see how your proposal fixes the deadlocks. The problem is that
> on a lot of arch's IPIs are normal interrupts. If interrupts are
> disabled, you don't see them.
ARM uses normal interrupts for IPIs as well.
> The deadlock scenario is CPU1 enters smp_call_function() with IRQ's
> disabled as CPU2 does the same thing and spins on the call_lock. Now
> CPU1 is waiting for an ack for its IPI to CPU2, but CPU2 will never see
> the IPI until it enables interrupts.
I can see in the generic IPI patches that the call_function_lock is only
held for list_add_tail_rcu and not while waiting for the other CPU to
complete (both arch_send_call_function_ipi and csd_flag_wait are outside
the locking region).
The patch I posted polls for an incoming IPI in the csd_flag_wait()
function if the interrupts are disabled so that it clears the wait flag
even if it doesn't get the IPI. The disadvantage might be a spurious IPI
(but I can leave with this). If interrupts are enabled, there is no
drawback, apart from a call to irq_disabled().
> One way to mitigate the effects of this is to enable interrupts if the
> architecture code finds the call_lock (x86 implementation) held against
> it, then re-disable before trying to get the lock again. But really, in
> order to make smp_call_function work in interrupt disabled sections, the
> interrupt handler has to be modified to bar all non-IPI interrupts until
> the critical section is over (otherwise there's no point allowing it
> with disabled interrupts because an smp_call_function becomes a de facto
> interrupt enable again). If you really want to see how something like
> this works, the voyager code has it (because interrupt disabling in the
> VIC is expensive). But it's quite a lot of code ...
I still think it can be less complicated that this. I'll look at Paul's
post to get some ideas. As I said, I need this functionality on current
ARM SMP systems, even if it means implementing it separately.
Thanks.
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-10 16:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-29 8:58 [PATCH 0/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls #4 Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-05-30 11:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-06 8:44 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-10 14:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-10 15:44 ` James Bottomley
2008-06-10 16:04 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2008-06-10 15:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-10 16:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-11 3:25 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-11 10:13 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-11 10:13 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-07-06 17:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 2/10] x86: convert to generic helpers for " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 12:12 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-29 12:17 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 13:47 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 3/10] powerpc: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 4/10] ia64: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 5/10] alpha: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 6/10] arm: " Jens Axboe
2008-06-02 12:29 ` Russell King
2008-06-02 12:29 ` Russell King
2008-06-06 8:47 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 7/10] m32r: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 8/10] mips: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 14:20 ` Ralf Baechle
2008-05-30 7:23 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 9/10] parisc: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-31 7:00 ` Kyle McMartin
2008-05-31 7:00 ` Kyle McMartin
2008-06-02 8:17 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-02 16:09 ` Kyle McMartin
2008-06-06 8:47 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-06 21:11 ` Kyle McMartin
2008-06-09 8:47 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 8:58 ` [PATCH 10/10] sh: " Jens Axboe
2008-06-01 8:57 ` [PATCH 0/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls #4 Andrew Morton
2008-06-01 8:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-01 9:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-29 7:26 [PATCH 0/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls #3 Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1209453990-7735-1-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-29 7:26 ` [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-29 7:26 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1209453990-7735-2-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-29 13:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-29 13:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <20080429135936.GC12390-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 11:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 11:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <20080430112934.GA23203-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 11:34 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-30 11:34 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080430113456.GY12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 12:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 12:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <20080430121712.GR11126-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 12:37 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-30 12:37 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080430123717.GC12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-01 2:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-01 2:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 2:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 2:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-02 12:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 12:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 12:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 12:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 14:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 14:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-03 2:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-03 5:49 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-03 18:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-04 22:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05 4:15 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 4:15 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-07 20:42 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-08 4:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 12:50 ` Keith Owens
2008-05-02 13:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 22:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-30 22:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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