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From: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	tee@sgi.com, mingo@elte.hu, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch V3 0/3] Enable irqs when waiting for rwlocks
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:36:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228307798.1009.1.camel@nathan.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228307117.9673.232.camel@twins>

Peter Zijlstra píše v St 03. 12. 2008 v 13:25 +0100:
> On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 05:37 -0600, Robin Holt wrote:
> > > It's a bit regrettable to have different architectures behaving in
> > > different ways.  It would be interesting to toss an x86_64
> > > implementation into the grinder, see if it causes any problems, see if
> > > it produces any tangible benefits.  Then other architectures might
> > > follow.  Or not, depending on the results ;)
> > 
> > I personally expect SGI to work on this for x86_64 in the future.
> > Once we actually start testing systems with 128 and above cpus, I
> > would expect to see these performance issues needing to be addressed.
> > Until then, it is just a theoretical.
> 
> Personally I consider this a ugly hack and would love to see people
> solve the actual problem and move away from rwlock_t, its utter rubbish.

Me too, but we don't have that clean and nice solution today, but what
we _do_ have today are the machines which break badly when interrupts
are disabled for the whole duration of taking a rwlock_t. :(

Feel free to rewrite all users of rwlock_t. I'll appreciate it, oh so
very much.

Petr

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From: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	tee@sgi.com, mingo@elte.hu, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch V3 0/3] Enable irqs when waiting for rwlocks
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:36:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228307798.1009.1.camel@nathan.suse.cz> (raw)
Message-ID: <20081203123638.8ZYIogFy8hRAE27kqJ3JRgqxHh56t-jQ1-NjqKuC4_g@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228307117.9673.232.camel@twins>

Peter Zijlstra píše v St 03. 12. 2008 v 13:25 +0100:
> On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 05:37 -0600, Robin Holt wrote:
> > > It's a bit regrettable to have different architectures behaving in
> > > different ways.  It would be interesting to toss an x86_64
> > > implementation into the grinder, see if it causes any problems, see if
> > > it produces any tangible benefits.  Then other architectures might
> > > follow.  Or not, depending on the results ;)
> > 
> > I personally expect SGI to work on this for x86_64 in the future.
> > Once we actually start testing systems with 128 and above cpus, I
> > would expect to see these performance issues needing to be addressed.
> > Until then, it is just a theoretical.
> 
> Personally I consider this a ugly hack and would love to see people
> solve the actual problem and move away from rwlock_t, its utter rubbish.

Me too, but we don't have that clean and nice solution today, but what
we _do_ have today are the machines which break badly when interrupts
are disabled for the whole duration of taking a rwlock_t. :(

Feel free to rewrite all users of rwlock_t. I'll appreciate it, oh so
very much.

Petr


  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-03 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20081104122405.046233722@attica.americas.sgi.com>
2008-12-03  0:13 ` [Patch V3 0/3] Enable irqs when waiting for rwlocks Andrew Morton
2008-12-03  0:13   ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-03 11:37   ` Robin Holt
2008-12-03 12:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-03 12:36       ` Petr Tesarik [this message]
2008-12-03 12:36         ` Petr Tesarik
2008-12-03 12:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-03 12:44           ` Peter Zijlstra

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