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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] irq: remove IRQF_DISABLED
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:58:42 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1236329922.7260.127.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903020852220.3111@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 09:11 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > Would you be willing to take such a patch?
> 
> Yes - some day.
> 
> The "irq's disabled fastpath" thing has been there since pretty much day 
> one, because some irq handlers always wanted it. Making it the default 
> (and the only choice) is fine.

 .../...

I tend to disagree... (not -that- strongly but I felt like saying it
anyway :-) some archs have a reasonably nice support in the PIC for
interrupt priorities, allowing higher priority interrupts to "preempt"
lower priority ones, which this would effectively render useless.

Also, while yes, I agree, interrupts handlers -should- be short in
practice IDE is far from being the only example where this is not the
case and so we would delay timer interrupts for example for a
significant amount of time (or serial, that's another good example).

Also, we use the priority on some platform to have a high priority used
as a kind of "debugger" NMI .. ie, we don't have a real NMI but it's
better than nothing and here too, this would break it.

I don't see us having such a strong benefit from this... in fact, with
things like -rt, interrupts get moved to threads no ? Thus they
typically run with interrupts enabled... why have a different behaviour
on non-rt ? or I am missing something ? (I'm not terribly familiar with
the -rt stuff here so I probably am missing something).

Cheers,
Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-06  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-02 12:21 [RFC][PATCH] irq: remove IRQF_DISABLED Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 14:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 15:47   ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-02 15:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 16:32       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-02 21:01       ` Russell King
2009-03-02 21:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 21:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-02 17:55   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-02 18:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 18:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 18:27       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-02 18:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-02 18:48       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-02 19:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-02 19:18           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-02 17:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 18:45   ` Vadim Lobanov
2009-03-02 18:45     ` Vadim Lobanov
2009-03-02 18:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-05 15:40       ` Mark Lord
2009-03-02 21:17   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-02 21:17     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-06  8:58   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2009-03-06  9:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06  9:59       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-06 10:05         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-06 10:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 17:02           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 21:40             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-02 17:55 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-02 18:10   ` Peter Zijlstra

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