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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] irq: remove IRQF_DISABLED
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:59:03 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1236333543.7260.138.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1236330733.6326.15.camel@laptop>


> If you have distinct interrupt priorities, you can
> 
> 1) provide an interrupt stack for each priority
> 2) mask all lower priorities when handling one
> 
> Would that not work?

The PIC does that already. IE. it will only interrupt again before
->eoi() for an interrupt of a higher priority. But by using
IRQF_DISABLED, you mask interrupts in the core, and thus effectively
completely prevents the whole thing.

> The problems with enabling irqs in hardirq handlers are that you get
> unlimited irq nesting, which is bad for your stack, furthermore, somehow
> people thing it makes things 'faster' because the irq-off latency goes
> down.

No, you don't get unlimited IRQ nesting, at least not on sane archs with
a decent PIC that does things like what I described above :-)

> The latter just isn't true, as you still have preemption disabled, so
> everything but irqs still suffers.
> 
> The only way to make things low-latency is to pull work out of
> non-preemptable context. Using threaded IRQs is one way to do that.

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-06  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-02 12:21 [RFC][PATCH] irq: remove IRQF_DISABLED Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 14:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 15:47   ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-02 15:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 16:32       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-02 21:01       ` Russell King
2009-03-02 21:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 21:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-02 17:55   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-02 18:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 18:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 18:27       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-02 18:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-02 18:48       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-02 19:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-02 19:18           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-02 17:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 18:45   ` Vadim Lobanov
2009-03-02 18:45     ` Vadim Lobanov
2009-03-02 18:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-05 15:40       ` Mark Lord
2009-03-02 21:17   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-02 21:17     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-06  8:58   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-06  9:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06  9:59       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2009-03-06 10:05         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-06 10:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 17:02           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-06 21:40             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-02 17:55 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-02 18:10   ` Peter Zijlstra

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