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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/5] mm: add coherence API for DMA to vmalloc/vmap areas
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:27:58 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1262467678.2173.244.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091224123913.GD5335@parisc-linux.org>

On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 05:39 -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> invalidates the processor cache for a given virtual address range
> in the vmap area.  This API addresses the problem that the processor
> may have performed speculative reads into its cache of the vmapped
> area while I/O was occurring to the underlying physical pages.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>

Interestingly, our DMA APIs in this regard are sub-optimal as they
should provide 3 hooks, not 2.

Flush is good for ensuring dirty lines have been pushed out before an
outgoing DMA.

But for incoming DMA it would be nice to properly split the 2 calls that
may be needed on some archs, one before, one after the transfer. Sure,
invalidate twice will "work" but the f will also be sub-optimal on some
platforms depending on whether the platform is known to be able or not
to speculatively load cache lines etc...

Maybe just a "before" vs. "after" argument ?

Also, the proposal goes contrary to most of our DMA APIs which don't
actually expose the details of invalidate vs. flush but instead expose
the direction of the transfer (both lack the above subtlety though).

Thoughts ?

Cheers,
Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-02 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-23 21:22 [PATCHv2 0/5] fix xfs by making I/O to vmap/vmalloc areas work James Bottomley
2009-12-23 21:22 ` [PATCHv2 1/5] mm: add coherence API for DMA to vmalloc/vmap areas James Bottomley
2009-12-23 21:22   ` James Bottomley
2009-12-23 21:22   ` [PATCHv2 2/5] parisc: add mm " James Bottomley
2009-12-23 21:22     ` [PATCHv2 3/5] arm: " James Bottomley
2009-12-23 21:22       ` [PATCHv2 4/5] sh: " James Bottomley
2009-12-23 21:22         ` James Bottomley
2009-12-23 21:22         ` [PATCHv2 5/5] xfs: fix xfs to work with Virtually Indexed architectures James Bottomley
2009-12-24 11:03           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-24 11:03             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-27 15:32             ` James Bottomley
2010-01-02 21:33     ` [PATCHv2 2/5] parisc: add mm API for DMA to vmalloc/vmap areas Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-02 21:33       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-02 21:53       ` James Bottomley
2010-01-03 20:12         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-03 20:12           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-12-24 10:08   ` [PATCHv2 1/5] mm: add coherence " Matt Fleming
2009-12-24 10:08     ` Matt Fleming
2009-12-24 12:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-12-24 12:39       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-12-24 13:06       ` Matt Fleming
2009-12-24 13:06         ` Matt Fleming
2009-12-27 15:37       ` James Bottomley
2010-01-02 21:27       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-01-02 21:54         ` James Bottomley
2010-01-03 20:14           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-03 20:14             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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