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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Francois Romieu <romieu@fr.zoreil.com>
Subject: Re: SMP barriers semantics
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:03:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1267617825.15589.82.camel@e102109-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100303005529.GA3879@brick.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 00:55 +0000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 10:52:58AM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > The main question - are the Linux SMP barriers supposed to have an
> > effect outside of cacheable memory accesses (i.e. ordering wrt I/O
> > accesses)?
> 
> The SMP barriers are only required to order cacheable accesses.  The
> plain (non-SMP) barriers (mb, wmb, rmb) are required to order both
> cacheable and non-cacheable accesses.

Thanks for clarification.

> > My understanding from other comments in the kernel source is that the
> > SMP barriers are only meant or cacheable memory but there are drivers
> > that do something like below (e.g. drivers/net/r8169.c):
> >
> >               /* We need for force the visibility of tp->intr_mask
> >                * for other CPUs, as we can loose an MSI interrupt
> >                * and potentially wait for a retransmit timeout if we don't.
> >                * The posted write to IntrMask is safe, as it will
> >                * eventually make it to the chip and we won't loose anything
> >                * until it does.
> >                */
> >               tp->intr_mask = 0xffff;
> >               smp_wmb();
> >               RTL_W16(IntrMask, tp->intr_event);
> >
> > Is this supposed to work given the SMP barriers semantics?
> 
> Well, if the smp_wmb() is supposed to make the assignment to
> tp->intr_mask globally visible before any effects of the RTL_W16(),
> then it's buggy.  But from the comments it appears that the smp_wmb()
> might be intended to order the store to tp->intr_mask with respect to
> following cacheable stores, rather than with respect to the RTL_W16(),
> which would be OK.  I can't say without having a much closer look at
> what that driver is actually doing.

I cc'ed the r8169.c maintainer.

But from the architectural support perspective, we don't need to support
more than a lightweight barrier in this case.

Thanks.

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-03 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-02 10:52 SMP barriers semantics Catalin Marinas
2010-03-03  0:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2010-03-03 12:03   ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2010-03-12 12:31     ` Ralf Baechle
2010-03-12 20:38       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-17  2:25       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-17 10:31         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-17 13:42         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-22 12:02           ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-23  3:42             ` Nick Piggin
2010-03-23 10:24             ` Catalin Marinas
2010-04-06 14:20               ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-06 15:43                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-06 16:04                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-04-23 16:23                 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-04-23 16:56                   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-23 17:25                     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-04-24  1:45                       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-26  9:21                         ` Catalin Marinas
2010-03-04  2:23   ` David Dillow
2010-03-04  9:33     ` Russell King
2010-03-04  9:48       ` Catalin Marinas

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