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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Rabin Vincent <rabin@rab.in>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: start_kernel(): bug: interrupts were enabled early
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:48:56 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1270104536.7101.114.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100331233330.1a7357e4.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 23:33 -0400, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Just a few instructions, I guess.   But we can do it with zero.
> 
> And from a design POV, pretending that down_read()/down_write() can be
> called with interrupts disabled is daft - they cannot!  Why muck up
> the
> usual code paths with this startup-specific hack? 

Because we the problem of when interrupts are enabled for the first time
is a nasty one, and having entire layer of things not usable at the
right level of init because somewhere something might do an irq enable
due to calling generic code that down's a semaphore is a PITA.

Seriously, Andrew, I don't see a clean solution... Something -somewhere-
will have to be ugly.

Allocation is a pretty basic service that a lot of stuff expect
especially when booting.

We went through that discussion before when we moved the SLAB init
earlier during boot, because it makes no sense to have tons of code to
have to figure out what allocator to call depending on what phase of the
moon it's called from (especially when said code can also be called
later during boot, say for hotplug reasons).

So we moved sl*b init earlier, thus we ought to be able to also
kmem_cache_alloc() earlier. We -fixed- that problem already afaik.

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-01  6:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20100325194100.GA2364@debian>
2010-03-31 20:40 ` start_kernel(): bug: interrupts were enabled early Andrew Morton
2010-03-31 20:47   ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-31 20:47     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-31 20:52     ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-31 21:12       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-31 21:28         ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-31 22:35           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-01 16:13         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-01 14:27           ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-01 20:12             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-02 14:46               ` David Howells
2010-04-02 14:54                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-07 19:09           ` Kevin Hilman
2010-04-08 15:55             ` Américo Wang
2010-04-08 15:55               ` Américo Wang
2010-03-31 21:01     ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-03-31 21:05       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-31 21:17         ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-03-31 21:42           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-31 21:54             ` Russell King
2010-03-31 21:57               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-31 21:57                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-31 22:30                 ` Russell King
2010-03-31 22:37                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-31 22:49                   ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-01  1:17                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-31 22:26                       ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-01  6:26                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-01  3:33                           ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-01  6:48                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-04-01 11:06                               ` David Howells
2010-04-01 15:55                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-04-01 23:00                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-01 16:15                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-01 16:15                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-01  6:50                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-31 22:36             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-01 15:57               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-31 21:05     ` Russell King
2010-03-31 21:05       ` Russell King
2010-03-31 21:08       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-31 21:08         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-31 22:58       ` David Howells
2010-04-01  9:41         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-01 10:50           ` David Howells
2010-04-01 11:23           ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-03-31 22:31     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-31 22:36       ` H. Peter Anvin

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