From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: kbuild: fixing the select problem
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 09:17:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1273151844.23208.48.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p2x10f740e81005052347x9430657fua98b8982e860bd2d@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 08:47 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 23:49, James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> > [Sam: I know you don't maintain kbuild anymore, but since you have the
> > most experience, if you could find time to comment, I'd be grateful]
> >
> > The select problem is that the kbuild select directive will turn a
> > symbol on without reference to its dependencies. This, in turn, means
> > that either selected symbols must select their dependencies, or that
> > people using select have to be aware of the selected symbol's dependency
> > and build those dependencies into their symbol (leading to duplication
> > and the possibility of getting the dependencies out of sync). We use
> > select for the scsi transport classes, so we run into this problem in
> > SCSI quite a lot.
> >
> > I think the correct fix is to make a symbol that selects another symbol
> > automatically inherit all of the selected symbol's dependencies.
>
> What if there's a good reason the selected symbol has this dependency?
> E.g. it depends on a critical feature not available? Like CONFIG_HAS_IOMEM?
I don't quite understand the question. If a selected symbol has a
critical dependency which is config'd to N then the build usually
breaks ... that's what I'm calling the select problem. I thought
CONFIG_HAS_IOMEM was usually selected by the architecture, though. In
the new proposal, we wouldn't be able to generate the invalid
configuration in the first place.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-06 13:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-05 21:49 kbuild: fixing the select problem James Bottomley
2010-05-05 21:49 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 6:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 6:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 13:17 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2010-05-06 13:17 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 13:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 16:47 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-05-06 16:47 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-05-06 17:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 17:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 14:24 ` Michal Marek
2010-05-06 14:24 ` Michal Marek
2010-05-06 14:52 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 14:52 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 20:48 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 20:59 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-05-06 21:05 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 16:52 ` Vegard Nossum
2010-05-07 11:31 ` Catalin Marinas
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