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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: kbuild: fixing the select problem
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 09:17:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1273151844.23208.48.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p2x10f740e81005052347x9430657fua98b8982e860bd2d@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 08:47 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 23:49, James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> > [Sam: I know you don't maintain kbuild anymore, but since you have the
> > most experience, if you could find time to comment, I'd be grateful]
> >
> > The select problem is that the kbuild select directive will turn a
> > symbol on without reference to its dependencies.  This, in turn, means
> > that either selected symbols must select their dependencies, or that
> > people using select have to be aware of the selected symbol's dependency
> > and build those dependencies into their symbol (leading to duplication
> > and the possibility of getting the dependencies out of sync).  We use
> > select for the scsi transport classes, so we run into this problem in
> > SCSI quite a lot.
> >
> > I think the correct fix is to make a symbol that selects another symbol
> > automatically inherit all of the selected symbol's dependencies.
> 
> What if there's a good reason the selected symbol has this dependency?
> E.g. it depends on a critical feature not available? Like CONFIG_HAS_IOMEM?

I don't quite understand the question.  If a selected symbol has a
critical dependency which is config'd to N then the build usually
breaks ... that's what I'm calling the select problem.  I thought
CONFIG_HAS_IOMEM was usually selected by the architecture, though.  In
the new proposal, we wouldn't be able to generate the invalid
configuration in the first place.

James



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-06 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-05 21:49 kbuild: fixing the select problem James Bottomley
2010-05-05 21:49 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06  6:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06  6:47   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 13:17   ` James Bottomley [this message]
2010-05-06 13:17     ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 13:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 16:47     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-05-06 16:47       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-05-06 17:25       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 17:25         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-05-06 14:24 ` Michal Marek
2010-05-06 14:24   ` Michal Marek
2010-05-06 14:52   ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 14:52     ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 20:48     ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 20:59       ` Randy Dunlap
2010-05-06 21:05         ` James Bottomley
2010-05-06 16:52   ` Vegard Nossum
2010-05-07 11:31 ` Catalin Marinas

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