From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
davem@davemloft.net, rmk@arm.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Update the cachetlb.txt file WRT flush_dcache_page and update_mmu_cache
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 11:16:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1273486607.3023.37.camel@e102109-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100510170616O.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 09:06 +0100, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> On Fri, 07 May 2010 14:24:18 +0100
> Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > @@ -312,15 +324,15 @@ maps this page at its virtual address.
> > This allows these interfaces to be implemented much more
> > efficiently. It allows one to "defer" (perhaps indefinitely)
> > the actual flush if there are currently no user processes
> > - mapping this page. See sparc64's flush_dcache_page and
> > - update_mmu_cache implementations for an example of how to go
> > + mapping this page. See IA-64's flush_dcache_page and
> > + set_pte_at implementations for an example of how to go
> > about doing this.
>
> cachetlb.txt says that flush_dcache_page() is the API to solve the
> D-cache aliasing issue. Using IA64 as an example for the API here
> looks strange since IA64 (PIPT) doesn't have D-cache aliasing
> issue.
Once we fix the ARM implementation, we could use it as an example :). It
has processors with both D-cache aliasing and separate I/D caches.
> I don't think that just replacing sparc64 with IA64 helps much here
> since we still have the problem that the whole cache handling
> (architectures, subsystems, file systems) is inconsistent. I think
> that we need to agree on it first.
Yes, this need to be agreed and hopefully this thread is a starting
point for such discussion.
The main problem I encountered on ARM was I/D cache coherency on a PIPT
processor and IA-64 and PowerPC fixed it by combining
flush_dcache_page() with set_pte_at().
IMHO, the D-cache aliasing isn't that much different from the I/D cache
coherency. We can view the I-cache as yet another alias of the D-cache
which needs explicit flushing. As I said on a few occasions, including
this patch, the flush_dcache_page() isn't always called from PIO
drivers. Adding a PIO API didn't seem very popular as it requires a lot
of drivers to be modified.
In most situations, just doing flushing in set_pte_at() would suffice
and flush_dcache_page() can be ignored. There are two situations where I
still see flush_dcache_page() useful:
1. SMP systems where the cache maintenance operations aren't
automatically broadcast in hardware
2. The kernel modifies a page cache page that is already mapped in
user space
(1) can be worked around on some architectures (though not sure about
all of them).
Is (2) a valid scenario?
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-10 10:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-07 13:24 [RFC PATCH] Update the cachetlb.txt file WRT flush_dcache_page and update_mmu_cache Catalin Marinas
2010-05-10 8:06 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-10 10:16 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2010-05-10 10:29 ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-10 14:40 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-10 14:40 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-10 11:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-05-10 14:00 ` [RFC PATCH] Update the cachetlb.txt file WRT flush_dcache_pageand update_mmu_cache Catalin Marinas
2010-05-10 14:03 ` David Miller
2010-05-10 14:32 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-05-11 11:31 ` [RFC PATCH] Update the cachetlb.txt file WRT flush_dcache_page and update_mmu_cache FUJITA Tomonori
2010-05-11 17:22 ` Catalin Marinas
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